QB needy teams

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mooby
10-19-2011, 12:27 PM
So lets say Denver does want to draft a new QB.
Would you trade Orakpo for Tebow?

(not my idea but it got my attention when I first heard it)

Hell f'n no. Trade a proven pro-bowler for a question mark? No thanks.

mooby
10-19-2011, 12:29 PM
You dont mean brian orakpo, do you?

No, he's talking about Susie Orakpo, Brian's wife. ;)

CultBrennan59
10-19-2011, 01:21 PM
So for those in favor of getting a QB, I know we've been writing off Andrew Luck, because he will be the first overall pick. BUT, the latest report out there which has been gaining heat, is that Andrews Dad wants to control andrews situation as to where he goes. The story first got reported by Albert Breer from NFLN. What IF we finished mid round, and offered a team like Indy 3 first rounders for him? I would do it. I feel like his dad doesn't want him going to a team like Indy with Peytons uncertainty or a team like the chiefs or dolphins with their head coaching uncertainty. I'm not saying that theres a good chance we get him, but theres definitely not no chance we get him.

CRedskinsRule
10-19-2011, 01:25 PM
No way Indy or the Chiefs pass on Luck. The only way we, or anyone else has a shot is if a team with a "established" young qb, ie Bradford, gets the first pick. At that point bidding would be outlandish, and probably not worth it. Now, maybe he pulls an Elway, and refuses to eventually sign, and so the team then has to deal him, but I can't imagine Luck not wanting to step into the Colts driver seat, even if it means sitting behind Manning for 1 - 2 years.

SmootSmack
10-19-2011, 01:34 PM
I'm hoping the Rams gets the first pick, and we can make a push for Bradford

BigHairedAristocrat
10-19-2011, 01:36 PM
the way its looking now, the colts will get 1st pick, take luck, and get three 1st rounders for manning.

MTK
10-19-2011, 01:37 PM
I'm hoping the Rams gets the first pick, and we can make a push for Bradford

That would be pretty crazy. If there was any hint that Bradford could be available, you'd have to think we'd push hard for him.

sportscurmudgeon
10-19-2011, 02:42 PM
Now that we're 6 weeks into the season and we have an ok idea of who the bad teams are and who the good teams are, lets take a look at who might be interested in upgrading at quarterback next year. I'll start by listing all the teams with losing or .500 records at this point.

Winless
Colts - we can already assume if they end up with the first shot at Luck, they'll take him. And even if he isn't available, they might pick a qb anyways. So yes, they'll prob. look at qbs in the draft this year.
Rams - No, def. wouldn't take a qb.
Dolphins - yes, definitely would be interested in a qb. With a new head coach probably on his way in he'd def. want a qb he could mold in his image.


1 win teams -
Jags - no, don't think they'd take a qb. Too many holes on that team, even if they did think there was a qb out there better than Gabbert, which is doubtful.
Vikings - again, same thing here. Too many holes, already have Ponder, probably going to stick with him especially if he flashes potential for the rest of the season.
Panthers - nope. Need defensive help more than anything.
Broncos - hard call here. I don't think Fox likes Tebow but if Tebow plays well for the rest of the season it'd be hard to see them going qb here, especially since the rest of the team needs help.
Cards - another tough call. Kolb obviously isn't working out, and I have no idea if Whisenhunt is on a short leash or not. I'll say possibly.


2 win teams -
Chiefs - Haley looks like a lame duck coach, but they might keep him if he turns it around. Cassel hasn't played nearly as good this year as he did last year, so if a new coach comes in he might want a new qb. Possibly for this team too.
Browns - idk, tough call here. I don't know too much about how Shurmur and Holmgren feel about McCoy. Possibly?
Seahawks - I think we can all assume if they were in position to take an elite qb, they'd take him. Especially with Carroll's connections to a guy like Matt Barkley.
Cowboys - idk here either. Doubtful, but you never know. Another up and down year for Romo, or another crushing playoff loss, and they just might go younger. Again, doubtful imo, but it's hard to get a read here.
Eagles - do I really need to include them? I think they'll get things on the right track this season, because of their season saving win last week (thanks again, Skins), and they'd probably be wiser to invest in offensive line or linebackers. Vick has played up and down ball this year but he's the least of their problems.


.500 teams
Falcons - no. Just no.
Texans - maybe? Schaub certainly isn't their biggest problem. Doubtful but you never know, especially if Kubiak is let go if they go on a downward spiral from here on out.
Jets - The Sanchize certainly hasn't played up to his draft status this year, but doubtful here too.
Bears - nah, don't see it happening. QB isn't a need.


So I'll sum it up now.


Teams that need qbs:
Colts, Dolphins


Possibly:
Broncos, Cardinals, Chiefs, Browns, Seahawks


Possibly, but doubtful:
Cowboys, Texans


Leaning toward a heavy no:
Rams, Jaguars, Vikings, Panthers, Eagles, Falcons, Jets, Bears.


This is a very preliminary list, obviously there's 11 weeks left to go, anything can happen, some qb's will play poorly, some will fall out of favor, etc. But some of these qb holes will be filled through free agency, some through trades, and some through the draft. I'm definitely in favor of giving up a few picks if it means we get our guy for the next decade. But I think we should definitely go the draft route. I think I'll bump this thread once the season is over and we have a much more clear idea of draft order and who might want a qb.


Good analysis...

I might disagree with you about the Jags and Blaine Gabbert. He has looked VERY RAW on the field and if he gets a dozen starts this year and still looks the way he does now, the Jags - - with a new coach next year almost assuredly - - might want to play in the QB lottery again.

Kolb is not really the problem in Arizona. The OL there is a sieve and Kolb's game is not scrambling - - whech is what he has to do in order to stay alive.

I think that the Chiefs, Browns and Seahawks are more "probably" than "possibly".

sportscurmudgeon
10-19-2011, 02:46 PM
So lets say Denver does want to draft a new QB.
Would you trade Orakpo for Tebow?

(not my idea but it got my attention when I first heard it)

Hell NO!

There is not enough Irish Whiskey in the world to get me so drunk I'd agree to that trade...

freddyg12
10-19-2011, 03:21 PM
I'm hoping the Rams gets the first pick, and we can make a push for Bradford

Why not make a push for Luck? They would likely be interested in trading the #1 pick for a boatload of picks. Whether its Bradford or LUck, the price will be crazy, but I think it'd be worth it to give up a lot to get Luck.

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