QB needy teams

The QB market is going to flood next year, in part because it was so weak this year that we inflated the stock of guys like Kaepernick, Dalton, Locker, etc. Newton and Gabbert would have been no. 1s in any year, but the rest of the draft got inflated. And because those guys are all still high picks, the fact that Campbell, Henne, Orton, Flynn, Hanie, etc are all going to be free agents and that the 2012 QB draft class is one of the strongest in recent memory.

So anyone who needs a quarterback can one way cheaper than in 2010 or 2011. In other words, Beck v Grossman is not relevant.

I don't think its about getting a qb, but getting the right qb. We don't need another Jason Campbell, who is good enough to start somewhere, we need a guy that will put us in a position to win any game given that he has a respectable supporting cast. Using even a 4th rounder on the next Jason Campbell is a waste IMO, idc that he is one of the 32 best qbs in the league, he's not good enough to get the job done.

Getting good value for a starting material qb doesn't mean anything if the qb can't win his team games. The point of this thread isn't to examine if we can get "someone" to play qb for us, but rather if we are able to get the right guy to play qb for us. Unless there are 4 guys in this class that can do it, or someone slips through the cracks, I just don't see it happening.

I'd honestly say half the league does not have the qb that is needed to be able to be a legitimate candidate for a superbowl. Im going to be generous to what I really think and say that there are only roughly 15 guys capable of bringing home their team the lombardi in any given year. Over half of them are taken in the top third of the draft. Another portion are guys that nobody expected to do well. That leaves slim odds that a guy will be there where we are targeting a franchise qb. I've never seen a year where 4 highly touted qbs panned out and I'd say that there are 3 teams that will pick before us that will take a qb. I'd say we just need to get lucky to get one this year, hope to god one slips through the cracks either through teams passing on a guy or by us finding a diamond in the rough.

I don't think its about getting a qb, but getting the right qb. We don't need another Jason Campbell, who is good enough to start somewhere, we need a guy that will put us in a position to win any game given that he has a respectable supporting cast. Using even a 4th rounder on the next Jason Campbell is a waste IMO, idc that he is one of the 32 best qbs in the league, he's not good enough to get the job done.

Getting good value for a starting material qb doesn't mean anything if the qb can't win his team games. The point of this thread isn't to examine if we can get "someone" to play qb for us, but rather if we are able to get the right guy to play qb for us. Unless there are 4 guys in this class that can do it, or someone slips through the cracks, I just don't see it happening.

I'd honestly say half the league does not have the qb that is needed to be able to be a legitimate candidate for a superbowl. Im going to be generous to what I really think and say that there are only roughly 15 guys capable of bringing home their team the lombardi in any given year. Over half of them are taken in the top third of the draft. Another portion are guys that nobody expected to do well. That leaves slim odds that a guy will be there where we are targeting a franchise qb. I've never seen a year where 4 highly touted qbs panned out and I'd say that there are 3 teams that will pick before us that will take a qb. I'd say we just need to get lucky to get one this year, hope to god one slips through the cracks either through teams passing on a guy or by us finding a diamond in the rough. When you say that half the league doesn't have a super bowl QB, I think you need to be more specific. Our opinion of QBs changes too violently to say that theres a "can do" group and a "can't do" group. Just look at the Romo debate. There are people out there who think he's a "can never win" guy. But he's better than at least 24 starters in the NFL. So you can't draw a line beyond the top five without taking an opinion on Romo first. And then what do you do with Big Ben, who isn't as good as Romo, but who has won two? My point: you can't make a "can win" and "can't win" group based on quarterbacks and look smart three years from now. Where would you put Matt Ryan or Sam Bradford? Much less a guy like Tebow.

You shouldn't build the QB position any differently than any other position. You just need to find the best guy for what you are trying to do in any given year. Now, if you get it right? Everyone will say that you have a "top ten QB." Now, understand that people in the media (Deion Sanders/Michael Irvin) we're saying seven days ago that the Redskins had the best QB in the division in Rex Grossman. Understanding that they were a bit inaccurate in their assessment, how can we be so smart about drafting/developing QBs if an honest argument can be made that Grossman is outpacing the rest of the division in production, including one guy who already has a super bowl.

Haven't seen enough of Beck so we will see and Henne is not any good at all. Guys like Jason Campbell and Alex Smith are betterBut Henne's been better than Sanchez in every year of their careers to date. Should we not expect that to continue after he escapes Miami?

Henne is a guy worth looking at. He's been stuck on some bad offenses.

Well Rex is definitely (I think) gone after this year, and Beck likely returns. The past two years I've heard that we're taking a QB high (1st or 2nd round). Extenuating circumstances have kept that from happening...but of course, I'm hearing it again.

We can't go another year with drafting at least one QB in my opinion.

Henne is a guy worth looking at. He's been stuck on some bad offenses.

Yeah im a Henne sympathizer. Im not sure what type of offense he would be suited for our type of offense by the guy does have skills and has shown he can overcome some pretty crappy situtations.

Yeah im a Henne sympathizer. Im not sure what type of offense he would be suited for our type of offense by the guy does have skills and has shown he can overcome some pretty crappy situtations.

Just on the surface he seems like a possible fit. He's athletic and mobile, big arm, hard working guy, etc.

I didn't think about Flynn, I would trade our 2nd and extra 4th for him in a heartbeat. I know the payday is big as well, but he has proven pretty good, and is ready to step in. I probably would go higher on the compensation as well, but would have to know where we fall in the draft.

So lets say Denver does want to draft a new QB.
Would you trade Orakpo for Tebow?

(not my idea but it got my attention when I first heard it)

So lets say Denver does want to draft a new QB.
Would you trade Orakpo for Tebow?

(not my idea but it got my attention when I first heard it)

Worst idea ever.