Chico23231
10-18-2011, 04:55 PM
I don't agree that he conspired with the Browns to break his own collarbone.
lol well yes i agree with that in spite of his immaculate pocket awareness. I didnt see the play, but he probably wasnt holding on to the ball that longer than he should...again. hey i want to see the Raiders win, Palmer, JC or KB.
GTripp0012
10-18-2011, 04:56 PM
lol well yes i agree with that in spite of his immaculate pocket awareness. I didnt see the play, but he probably wasnt holding on to the ball that longer than he should...again. hey i want to see the Raiders win, Palmer, JC or KB.Well, okay then.
Chico23231
10-18-2011, 05:04 PM
Well, okay then.
that list of tragic figures due to injury, pretty long list i imagine.
SmootSmack
10-18-2011, 05:18 PM
Me: I didn't know you worked for the Raiders now!
Matt Millen: I thought I was also getting Houshmanzadeh...championship!
...nice to know he can laugh about it
budw38
10-18-2011, 05:18 PM
Raiders should get compensatory picks for Nnamdi, Gallery and others but still seems like a lot to give up for Palmer. Curious to see what happens in the offseason Smoot , do you have any idea if we will receive a comp pick C. Rogers ?
SmootSmack
10-18-2011, 05:20 PM
Smoot , do you have any idea if we will receive a comp pick C. Rogers ?
We should
sportscurmudgeon
10-18-2011, 05:23 PM
Mike Brown is still a dumba$$. He got lucky that a major injury gave him this opportunity. If Campbell doesn't get hurt, Palmer sits for a whole season and loses any trade value. Hopefully they won't F things up and build a solid team around Dalton.
MIke Brown is still a dumbass; no argument there.
Please explain how Palmer sitting for a whole season makes him lose trade value. It's not like he's 40 years old...
sportscurmudgeon
10-18-2011, 05:29 PM
I just perfer results over numbers .. unless its wins and division titles super bowls in this case zero etc etc
So, taking any QB in the draft is a bad idea because he has no results - - zero etc etc. Right?
At the moment, the QBs with Super Bowl rings and division titles who are not under contract somewhere are - - purely from memory so I may have missed some:
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
John Elway
Brett Favre.
By your logic, those guys are better than Carson Palmer. Say what?
Look, I think Palmer is only an above average QB and the Raiders paid a lot for him, but it is ridiculous to say that he is a turkey because he hasn't won a Super Bowl.
Ruhskins
10-18-2011, 06:08 PM
MIke Brown is still a dumbass; no argument there.
Please explain how Palmer sitting for a whole season makes him lose trade value. It's not like he's 40 years old...
Taking this Raiders trade out of the equation, I would imagine that trading Carson Palmer in the 2011 offseason would have resulted in better value for Cincy than trading him in the 2012 offseason. Of course this argument is moot given that the Raiders have overpaid for Palmer.