What's your take on our coaching?

From what I gathered that delay of game was more so a miscommunication between MS and the referees on getting the time out called.

And I'm not sure I'd gather from that one incident that there isn't camaraderie on this offense. I would think that the offseason workouts say otherwise.

I also believe, that the lockout and who was drafted ahead of us played key roles in affecting our QB plans. We do need a QB of the future, I absolutely agree. But unfortunately, that's not all we needed. We have added several key pieces. And I know after a loss like this, we all want to talk about how we have failed mightily and the rest of the season is doomed etc. If fans want to think that, fine, our feelings have no affect. But we're screwed if the actual team starts to believe it.

Skins added talent all around and just hoped Rex wouldn't f up but I think beck will be the leagues surprise this yr

Well mike came into a cluster **** of a team that went 4-12 let's b real here.. Hes done a very good job of drafting and has the team competitive. I still say this team wins 8/9 games and that's pretty good IMO

I totally agree, Shanny took over a perennial loser with roster rot throughout the team. This kind of thing isnt turned around in a season or 2, its gonna take awhile. I think its so far so good with Shanny.

Starting with the top down...

My frustration with Mike is building. I think as the "big picture" goes he's wasted two years with the QB situation and (therefor) to a large extent the offense. To be sure Kyle has much to do with the QB mess, assuming he's the primary reason we have Rex on the roster at all. But at the end of the day Mike is still the HC. The other frustration with Mike is our lack of preparedness, especially on offense and teams. The delay of game today on the field goal turned punt is a prime example.

In general I don't feel like the offense consistently works together and fights to win. When Helu took a big shot today on that short pass (he couldn't make the catch and got the wind knocked out of him) just one player, a lineman I think, came over to check on him, and that guy didn't even help Helu up. WTF?! This kid is a promising rookie and just got plastered. I think the lack of camaraderie on offense is a symptom of Mike's failure in leadership.

On the defense there's plenty of camaraderie and these guys are definitely fighting to win. Haslett is a great motivator IMHO. His scheme is suspect part of the time, but I will go on record Haslett has exceeded my expectations.

So, I'm disappointed in the Shanahans and pretty damn impressed with Haslett. Very curious to know what ya'll are thinking...so discuss!

PS I think Mike's history as a returning 2X championship HC has to be taken into account when assessing his performance here. I definitely expected him to come in with a solid plan of action and have the offense, especially the QB situation, moving in a better direction by now.



Weren't we all just talking about how Mike is building something great here? Funny how people just go nuts after a tough loss when we lost 2 of our starting left side of the offensive line, tough loss to a division rival where records dont mean shit. So damn fickel around here.

I totally agree, Shanny took over a perennial loser with roster rot throughout the team. This kind of thing isnt turned around in a season or 2, its gonna take awhile. I think its so far so good with Shanny.
Exactly . We need better paly at QB , a WR that can get deep and also make " YAC " on offense . Defense , either 1 more big guy up front ( Maybe J. Jenkins ) , and a big down hill ILB next to Fletch . Two years ago , down 20-0 , we would have lost 41- 6 . We have F/A and nine draft pick ( plus a Comp pick for C. Rogers , I think ) . If Beck plays much better than REX , we could still win the east ?

I don't trust Kyle Shanahan.
Our play calling is downright bizarre at times.
I'm fine with Mike Shanahan for now.

Exactly . We need better paly at QB , a WR that can get deep and also make " YAC " on offense . Defense , either 1 more big guy up front ( Maybe J. Jenkins ) , and a big down hill ILB next to Fletch . Two years ago , down 20-0 , we would have lost 41- 6 . We have F/A and nine draft pick ( plus a Comp pick for C. Rogers , I think ) . If Beck plays much better than REX , we could still win the east ?

That's a huge if with Beck. I think the whole team needs to play better for them to win the East.

My take on coaching is... we should be focusing on the talent instead.

People complained about this same crap last year when our main problem clearly was a lack of talent. We're improved from last year in that department but we're still in the process of rebuilding this team.

That's a huge if with Beck. I think the whole team needs to play better for them to win the East.
Yes , the team would have to play better , however with both dallas and Philly losing 3 and 4 games already , we would have a shot . Of course losing KL and TW is not going to help . I look at it this way , on OFF we are a good QB and WR away from being pretty good , defense , we have 4 guys that are either playing new postions ( Cofield / Kerrigan ) and guys with little starting experience ( Bowens /J. Wilson ) so we have done well on D .

I totally agree, Shanny took over a perennial loser with roster rot throughout the team. This kind of thing isnt turned around in a season or 2, its gonna take awhile. I think its so far so good with Shanny.

Im gonna agree with this answer. I think Shanny, Haslett and the others have been pretty damn good. You can see the team growing and its the right direction. Im please on where this team is right now. BUT...

Kyle Shanny has been a problem. His ability to attack the defense's weakness has been poor. His gameplans prove this. His playcalling has been horrific around 50% of the time. Why doesnt he see we just dont have the talent to do everything he wants to and just play to our strengths?