What's your take on our coaching?

Listening to Kevin Sheehan and I have to agree. It isn't easy to be patient, but he brings several points to bare.
The most important that the past off-season made much progress as to the squad makeup. Much younger...more talented. BUT it would take at least one more offseason of doing a similar job (to see some good results) of evaluating who we have.....letting some go....seeing what vets need to go,etc.
AND we have like 9 or 10 picks coming, a significant amount of $$ under the cap.
Soooo....we should be able to have a great draft and do some damage in the FA market as well.
Rebuilding is not for the weak........ To many years of Vinnie..

I gotta agree with Sheehan. This team is moving in the right direction after too many years of Vinny's bad drafting and a few years of Gibbs giving away draft picks. This mess isnt going to get fixed overnight.

Hot seat for sure. To me, hot seat doesn't mean he should be canned. But there is a lot going wrong right now and he is under pressure right now. Teams get it done despite injuries. I would also say what we have seen on the field, especially in terms of offense, raises a lot of concerns. Teams that are rebuilding should be able to make a FG.

"Hot seat" means to me that you are definitely in the running for possibly being fired.

I've never heard of hot seat meaning being held accountable, I mean isn't that pretty much implied for someone who takes any job?

Well, I look at it from a spectrum perspective. You are accountable from day 1, but when S starts hitting the fan, especially after you have had some impact on the roster (1+ year) the pressure increases. The real "accountability" starts after season one and mid-way into season two, especially with the kind of performances we have had.

For the record, I think Shanny should get another year here. A 4th probably as well, but if things are looking this bad after season 3 too I think you have to consider other options. I hate the setback it causes, but how often are coaches getting full support from the FO with 3-4 years of consecutive losing seasons?

Right.
And Yellowstone is supposed to become a super volcano one day too.

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Okay, just curious: Who did you guys want? Because I don't remember the choices being that plentiful. And now I'm looking around and wondering who would come here if The Crazies actually got their way and Shanahan either resigned or was fired?

Kyle Shanahan...No actually I really thought Brian Billick was going to be the guy here, though he's not necessarily who I wanted.

I believe I had mostly said Brian Schottenheimer (among some other choices). I know. I know. Someone else who's a no one other than his last name. From what I've observed (get more Jets news and info up here than I do most other teams) I think he's going to be a very good head coach. Has good leadership, organizational skills.

But we got what we got. Let's make the best of it.

It is all about Snyder and marketing. The guy is a genius. EVen when his teams suck, he can get the fans to keep coming back for more. I agree with your comment for the most part about hiring Shanny in the first place. He needed to court one of the best OCs or DCs in the game, preferably younger, like when they got Norv. A young guy will be all fired up, and eager to win and prove himself. Shanny might just be there to collect a paycheck and get the hell out of town when the shit hits the fan. At this point he is even going to have to throw his son under the bus if he wants to truly retain his position in the not to distant future. I am not so sure he is going to do that. Do you really think Snyder isn't going to notice the empty seats come December if this situation isn't fixed? IF we only win a couple more games this season, but look like a real football team I have no problem keeping him around for his contract, but damn, the team looks in total disarray like it was under Zorn, and you are paying this bum how much? Shanny and co need to be put on the hot seat. They need to be held accountable. This is fast becoming a joke. Strike that, it is a joke, a very bad one.


I believe the number is $7M per...

Lack of talent is killing us moreso than coaching. OL is ass, and the QB is still adjusting to the speed of the game(and thinks he's Rothelisberger when he isn't), and our WRs either suck or are not yet ready. It's difficult to pin the blame on exactly who is at fault for the bad play results. Only thing I'll say for sure is that Kyle is scared to use screens.

And nepostism? Clinton Portis and Snyder were all luvy duvy and no one cared.


"OL is ass": The OL is very bad; I don't know that I would go quite that far...

"QB is still adjusting to the speed of the game": That is a VERY polite assessment. Neither QB is very good; one of them has been around long enough for us to conclude that he is highly unlikely to develop into a very good QB; the other one is 30 years old with a half-dozen starts in the league all of which turned into losses. I suspect there is more to the problem here than "adjusting to the speed of the game".

"WRs either suck or are not ready": It could be both options are correct here depending on which WR you are focusing on. One BIG question for this team is Mr. Hankerson. Will he become a real NFL caliber WR or is he another Malcom Kelly/Devin Thomas in the making? Thusfar, he has shown precious little on the field.

Oh and since Clinton Portis and Danny Boy are not in the same family, their relationship cannot be called nepotism. Because Mike and Kyle Shanahan are father and son, nepotism is clearly a concept that is open for discussion.

"OL is ass": The OL is very bad; I don't know that I would go quite that far...

"QB is still adjusting to the speed of the game": That is a VERY polite assessment. Neither QB is very good; one of them has been around long enough for us to conclude that he is highly unlikely to develop into a very good QB; the other one is 30 years old with a half-dozen starts in the league all of which turned into losses. I suspect there is more to the problem here than "adjusting to the speed of the game".

"WRs either suck or are not ready": It could be both options are correct here depending on which WR you are focusing on. One BIG question for this team is Mr. Hankerson. Will he become a real NFL caliber WR or is he another Malcom Kelly/Devin Thomas in the making? Thusfar, he has shown precious little on the field.

Oh and since Clinton Portis and Danny Boy are not in the same family, their relationship cannot be called nepotism. Because Mike and Kyle Shanahan are father and son, nepotism is clearly a concept that is open for discussion.

Snap!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the coaches are doing what they can with what they got. Right we don't have a QB, OL, or any wrs that I view as being a legitimate number one. The defense hasn't been looking good for the last 3 weeks. However, they have been on the field a lot because of how ineffective the offense has been. Have the coaches does a good job? I would say no, but they haven't been as bad as many would like to believe. The problem with this team is that we just don't have a lot talent at key positions. The reality of the situation is if we want to be winner we will have to be patient. It's going to take some time to get all the right people here.