What's your take on our coaching?

Have Mike and Kyle not been shouldering any of the blame?

And I just don't get how people are like "Well Kyle's only good when he has a good QB" Well then get him a good QB! What's the logic behind firing him? And then what you go and draft a franchise QB next year...and then we're all like "Man, imagine if Kyle Shanahan was working with this QB right now?"

Loss falls squarely on coaching. I have heard a couple common suggestions why they shouldn't be judged harshly but none are valid IMO.

1) Redskins are a team rebuilding and were not projected to do well: I say bull. The Bills were projected to be garbage as well.

2)Injuries have taken their toll: Bills are on their 3rd left tackle. You would think our ends would have had a field-day. Also they have Chad Rinehart starting. Enough said.

3)Our WRs are terrible: All of the Bills receivers, from my understanding are undrafted nobodies. Stevie Johnson being the exception drafted in the 7th round. The same round Ryan Fitzpatrick was drafted in.

4)Our RBs are not good: Fred Jackson was a nobody until this year too.

Just like any major organization the buck stops with leadership. That is the FO and coaching.

Have Mike and Kyle not been shouldering any of the blame?

And I just don't get how people are like "Well Kyle's only good when he has a good QB" Well then get him a good QB! What's the logic behind firing him? And then what you go and draft a franchise QB next year...and then we're all like "Man, imagine if Kyle Shanahan was working with this QB right now?"

Well the fans seem to just want to blame the players for everything that goes wrong (even when the team was winning).

Loss falls squarely on coaching. I have heard a couple common suggestions why they shouldn't be judged harshly but none are valid IMO.

1) Redskins are a team rebuilding and were not projected to do well: I say bull. The Bills were projected to be garbage as well.

2)Injuries have taken their toll: Bills are on their 3rd left tackle. You would think our ends would have had a field-day. Also they have Chad Rinehart starting. Enough said.

3)Our WRs are terrible: All of the Bills receivers, from my understanding are undrafted nobodies. Stevie Johnson being the exception drafted in the 7th round. The same round Ryan Fitzpatrick was drafted in.

4)Our RBs are not good: Fred Jackson was a nobody until this year too.

1. Not by me and Tripp they weren't
2. Fair enough
3. Our WRs need to get the ball thrown to them more. Won't happen until we get a solid QB I suppose (put Rex back in!....*runs and hides*)
4. Shoot, Jackson's been on my fantasy football team for three years running (no pun intended) now

Blame goes all around

I don't think anyone really thought the Bills would be this good, but garbage? I thought they had .500 potential coming into this season.

But at the same time Mike & Kyle have to shoulder the blame for thinking they could be competitive with Rex and Beck at QB.


What the hell did you expect Mike to say in the off-season?



Yeah guys, we are going with two scrub QBs this season because there is absolutely nothing available to us on the open market or draft I deem worthy at our drafting spot?


I'm not sure why people read so much into a coach's statements or sometimes don't read enough. You have to know when he's lying his ass off (as in the case with Rex/Beck being legit) and when he's giving you code messages. (it's going to take time, but we will be competitive)

Translations: Our QBs suck and we are rebuilding.

However, I doubt you have many coaches who'll say that. In fact, probably none.

I tend to agree, our problem is talent more than coaching. But at the same time Mike & Kyle have to shoulder the blame for thinking they could be competitive with Rex and Beck at QB.

I agree that it's talent more than coaching too. I'm sure they are aware that Beck/Grossman aren't top tier players. I mean KS has been around Matt Schaub a couple years, he knows what a good QB looks like, same w/ MS obviously. We've got other major concerns, such as depth which they are aware of too and that's why we took so many players in this last draft.

I got a faith in the current administration. The last administration not so much.

1) Redskins are a team rebuilding and were not projected to do well: I say bull. The Bills were projected to be garbage as well.


Well, Smoot and Tripp both called the Bills the surprise team, but I no doubt had them in the Luck Sweepstakes.


Bengals
Dolphins
Bills
Panthers
Colts (after Manning's injury)


These are the teams I had pegged as the worst in the league. The Panthers are playing much better than their record to say the least.

I tend to agree, our problem is talent more than coaching. But at the same time Mike & Kyle have to shoulder the blame for thinking they could be competitive with Rex and Beck at QB.

Not too sure I can agree with you after yesterday. Buffalo is not a more talented team then we are. They're just better coached.