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mlmpetert 10-17-2011, 10:54 AM Ive said it many times before and been mostly shot down{because kyle was so great in houston,blah blah blah}
I hated this hire from the get go because as long as mikes here sos his son.If kyle wasnt his son I wouldnt have had a problem with the hire,but theres a HUGE conflict of interest
Completely agree. Just the perception, that im positive many players and other coaches have, of the sitution is bad for the team.
skinsfan69 10-17-2011, 10:56 AM It evens out, there were interceptions that never should have been. Grossman has also thrown deep completions and TDs, so to say we shouldn't have been aggressive at that point is just 20/20 hindsight
Bottom line, the guy isn't an NFL starter. I've seen enough.
mlmpetert 10-17-2011, 11:04 AM This is no surprise anymore.....and I've got a HUGE problem with that. I don't know what the hell he's getting paid, but it's too much. If you aren't evaluating the opponent's weaknesses and preparing your gameplan to exploit those weaknesses you should be fired immediately.
This piss-poor playcalling/gameplanning is becoming a trend. If it doesn't improve before mid-season, MS needs to either take the OC reigns and minimize KS's role or get rid of him. This is not difficult to fix, I could fix it tomorrow.
Its horrible and in my opinion its all the fault of Mike. Mike is allowing Kyle to continue to call horrible games. Kyle is calling horrible games and is continuing to put Rex in situations that Rex is horrible suited for. Rex has played pretty bad, but i think its in part because hes being forced by Kyle to do something that hes not good at. And Mike is allowing it.
Its a pretty easy fix. Mike just needs to take over game planning and play calling. Coach to the team's strengths and attack the opposing teams weaknesses, then get fancy.
mlmpetert 10-17-2011, 11:15 AM It evens out, there were interceptions that never should have been. Grossman has also thrown deep completions and TDs, so to say we shouldn't have been aggressive at that point is just 20/20 hindsight
My hindsight is better than most (20/10)….
Rex’s decision making is as bad as it gets. Theres being aggressive but smart and then theres being aggressive no matter the cost. Rex is the latter. I don’t put it on Rex though I put it on Kyle continually putting Rex in situations that don’t suit Rex’s strengths and expecting different outcomes.
12thMan 10-17-2011, 11:42 AM My smack down is to Rex and Kyle primarily, but to the team in general for letting the Eagles' season off the hook. At 1-5, they're done. Now they're 2-4, they just got a division win heading into a bye, and coming off the bye they play 3 straight at home. Not only did we blow a massive opportunity to improve our season, we breathed life right back into one of our major rivals. Failure.
Very reminiscent of the Giants game a few years ago when we let them off the hook and they rolled right into the playoffs.
That said, we don't need Beck to be great, just competent. If he can at least achieve that, I suspect it will make a world of difference on both sides of the ball.
12thMan 10-17-2011, 11:45 AM At the end of the day you can only put so much blame on Kyle. Rex Grossman is out there playing the game, not Kyle or Coach Shanny. I think we have a situation here where the offensive coordinator has his limitations and his chosen quarterback has even more.
12thMan 10-17-2011, 11:49 AM I normally don't like to point the finger at one guy but Rex just killed us yesterday. Each pick was worse than the one before. I think he was pressing and trying to make something happen, I get that, but you can't just keep tossing balls up for grabs. It's Beck's turn, he can't be worse than Rex... can he?
Not a chance in hell he's worse than Rex. Sometimes offense is very much about getting in a rhythm. My gut tells me with more reps in this offense, his accuracy issues will be resolved.
At the end of the day you can only put so much blame on Kyle. Rex Grossman is out there playing the game, not Kyle or Coach Shanny. I think we have a situation here where the offensive coordinator has his limitations and his chosen quarterback has even more.
Yeah I agree. There's plenty of blame to go around but in the end Rex is simply making horrible decisions out there. What happened to what he said a few weeks ago, that this offense is designed to get someone open on every play and his job is to stay patient and find him?
Lately that seems to be out the window and Rex is back to saying F it, I've got the best arm in the league and I can make any throw.
skinsfan69 10-17-2011, 12:12 PM Beck also can move around and with the injuries to the line his mobility is going to be crucial.
I'd also like to see a new play caller.
Again... the helmet to helmet hits are going to happen. It can't be avioded. That call on Orakpo should've gotten that ref suspended. Not only was it a god awful call but it was a momentum killer and had an effect on the outcome of the game.
that was the worst call I've seen all year and yes he should ****in fired
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