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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1962487
Yes, the same coach we ran out of town after one season for the ol ball coach, brilliant!
cpayne5 01-08-2005, 10:27 PM I bet we all wanted him gone when we were 0-5, though.
Daseal 01-08-2005, 10:59 PM the same coach that's 5-11 in the playoffs.
Hey at least he's in the playoffs, gotta be in it to win it
TheMalcolmConnection 01-09-2005, 12:15 AM http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1962487
Yes, the same coach we ran out of town after one season for the ol ball coach, brilliant!
Speaking of the "Ol' Ball Coach" I wonder what Spurrier is up to these days...
Last I heard, he basically hides his face whenever he comes out in public.
Daseal 01-09-2005, 01:11 AM Malcolm: The old ball coach made the most classy move ever. He could have ripped the players, ownership, etc. What did he do? Quietly step aside and stay in the area so his son could finish high school.
He's gotten a job with SC taking over for Lou Holtz. Check the stats - the "fool" Spurrier averaged more PPG than the appointed Offensive Genius known as Gibbs on this board. He didn't have the #2 (all year) #3 ending defense in the NFL at his back either.
Why is he ashamed? Because we had penelties? OH wait, same thing this year! Dropped balls? Oh wait... Ramsey took many less sacks, but also had very few TD passes.
aehs77 01-09-2005, 03:45 AM yea it would have been nice to have spurrier's offense paired with the d we had this year
bedlamVR 01-09-2005, 10:08 AM Sorry stats just don't do it for me ppg is fine but in his second year Spurrier was totally lost we jumped to a 3-1 start last year and finished 5-11. Our offence was horrible down the stretch last year and was the reason we were loosing games.
The difference this year yes we have spluttered offensivlybut we have finished strongly insted of colapsing. We have also for the first time in years started winning the games we are supposed to. Yes we have had a tough defense but not a spectaular big play defense. We have had turnovers that have stopped opposing offenses but I think the defence has only put a handful of points on the board and that is what we needed in the midst of the offense strugles.
Everyone harps on about how we should have stuck with Marty, Spurrier and even Norv but Shottenhiemer came here after a year of critzing Dan Snyder from the commentary booth, when the going got tough thier was an underlying animosity which ment problems just were not worked out. Also rember Marty has been in San Deigo for three years and has not worked miricals in his previous years and probably would do without Brees playing his heart out.
Spurriers problems were more deap seated than on field penalties the team played without heart or pride and that comes from the top down. When your HC doesnt know who is being cut or injured because he cannot be bothered to go to team meetings what message does that send to the rest of the team . Say what you want about Vinny and Snyder fingers medling with the roster Spurrier could have known what was goign on he just didn't choose to and I guess that could be but down to the difference between how things are done in the college system and the NFL and could be excusable in his first season but not in year two.
Gibbs is the guy we have right now, either get on the bus or don't.. but fact is we have a better record this year than we did have last year and there is ome of the familiar swagger comming back . No we shouldn't be proud of a 6-10 season but I feel we are on the right road thats my oppinion right now but thats partly becasue I am looking forward if Gibbs flames out and disappears after year three then I will be behind the new guy... you just cannot look back live for the day.
Daseal 01-09-2005, 11:11 AM Oh, Like the Giants, Browns, Dallas, Ravens, Bengals. All teams we SHOULD have beat.
Did Spurrier have problems, especially with control, sure. I feel that was his largest downfall. The offense got worse as he lost more control. He gave the players too much freedom and thought they were mature enough to come to meetings and listen without being watched like children. Apparently he was wrong.
And I'm sorry - our offense last year was a joy compared to the offense we're sporting this year. I also think it will be turned around by Gibbs, but that doesn't mean our offense was any less pathetic this year. Take your own advice, live for the day and see that our offense was pathetic due to poor playcalling.
Gmanc711 01-09-2005, 01:23 PM Oh, Like the Giants, Browns, Dallas, Ravens, Bengals. All teams we SHOULD have beat.
Did Spurrier have problems, especially with control, sure. I feel that was his largest downfall. The offense got worse as he lost more control. He gave the players too much freedom and thought they were mature enough to come to meetings and listen without being watched like children. Apparently he was wrong.
And I'm sorry - our offense last year was a joy compared to the offense we're sporting this year. I also think it will be turned around by Gibbs, but that doesn't mean our offense was any less pathetic this year. Take your own advice, live for the day and see that our offense was pathetic due to poor playcalling.
The biggest difference between Gibbs and SPurrier, I belive is leadership. I dont think Spurrier really ever had complete control of the team, like Gibbs does. I just dont think he is the type of person who can do that with the pro guys, but he can do an exellent job of it w/ college kids, ya know?
I too feel our offense proboly would have been a little better the way he ran it, but Gibbs will get things going his way in the end. I will be rooting for SC next year though, I really hope he can turn that program into a winner.
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