'Occupy' types

I HEART this (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/10/total-failure.html):

I'm sure this won't sit well with some but I'd like to hear the counter position to Froggy's post.


How do you counter a uneducated person's rant about people being uneducated? If this fool thinks "Occupy" is about college kids believing false things about economics, then he is truly is one of the very type he's talking about. I love the fact he brings up "unions" in the article. Just like a talking head parrot from the Republidiots. My guess is he still thinks Trickle Down theory works.


Idiots like "Froggy" let corporate media blow smoke up their ass and they sit in their recliners talking smack about the people making a stand. Here is the cold hard reality of it. Corporate America sponsors Corporate Media. They will report to you want they want to report. You think they are going to report the truth? No, they are detracting idiots just like Froggy with the smoke and mirrors that continue to haunt this country. They continue to do this with selective editing. Find one case, and make it out to the the norm. Hell, just outright lie, and we all know media like FOX lies its ass off repeatedly.


Occupy Wall Street bashes Fox News - YouTube

I HEART this (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/10/total-failure.html):

If there is any coherent message that can be gleaned from the Occupy Wall Street “movement”, it is that our system of public and higher education can now be declared a total and complete failure. The fact that there exists no accountability at any level of our Education-Industrial Complex is perfectly clear for all to see. It seems fair to say that responsibility for this can be laid squarely at the feet of the teacher’s unions and their members who have perpetuated an economic structure in education and a curricular agenda that has been allowed to defy gravity for 40 years.This ****tard needs to wake up and realize that knowing ****ing calculus, chemistry, or physics DOES NOT make you ANY MORE knowledgeable about economics(I know, since I have taken intro classes in all three areas). In fact, I would guess that plenty of guys who passed through those classes with flying colors are also "lefties".

Psychology is not a soft subject, and one obscure branch of it(Industrial-Organization) plays a SIGNIFICANT role in the coporate sector.

This ****tard needs to wake up and realize that knowing ****ing calculus, chemistry, or physics DOES NOT make you ANY MORE knowledgeable about economics(I know, since I have taken intro classes in all three areas). In fact, I would guess that plenty of guys who passed through those classes with flying colors are also "lefties".

Psychology is not a soft subject, and one obscure branch of it(Industrial-Organization) plays a SIGNIFICANT role in the coporate sector.

yep, the bright-lights happy workers study was the first well known case, but there's a lot of interaction and environmental effects that have been studied in relationship to work/production/effectiveness.

Here is a chance to stick it to a 1 percenter:

Jon Bon Jovi’s ‘pay-what-you-can’ charity restaurant opens in NJ to help the hungry - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/jon-bon-jovis-pay-what-you-can-charity-restaurant-opens-in-nj-to-help-the-hungry/2011/10/19/gIQAfk6uxL_story.html)

I posted this in one of the other political threads, but I think it belongs here. For those comparing the Tea Party movement to the Occupy movement, I would suggest there is a significant difference between the two. To be clear, I sympathize with elements of both movements - the Tea Party's theme of limited government and restoration of federalism, and the Occupy Movement's theme of corporate America's innate dysfunction and disconnect. I also disgree with both on many other issues. At the same time, from a practical analysis, I think the Tea Party has been (and will continue to be) a far more effective grass roots movement.

Unlike the the Tea Party, the Occupy movement is not actually organizing change it's just pouting about the problem. The Tea Party group - regardless of what you think of their message - organized, worked within the system, and elected numerous people who they believed would effect change. They were effective in that many politicians reflecting the "status quo" were defeated despite being backed by "the machine" (as it were). The Occupy folks have a clear and simple way to effect corporate change - buy in. Buy stocks and organize voting blocks within the corporations. It's hard, it's a lot of work, it would involve many setbacks, but there is a way for them to effectively change the structure. There is also, of course, the Tea Party route - identify an agenda, find individuals who support that agenda to run against machine politicians, and work like hell to elect those individuals -- or you can just sit in your own stench and whine. I am sure that will be effective too.

Just like the Tea Party, the Occupy movement oversimplifies both the problem & the solution and is just blatantly wrong on many things. They are every bit as stupid as those in the Tea Party whom the left likes to pillory. Of course, the dumb Tea Partiers probably don't have degrees from "I Am Smarter Than You & My Sh** Don't Stink" University so they are easier to pick on.

I posted this in one of the other political threads, but I think it belongs here. For those comparing the Tea Party movement to the Occupy movement, I would suggest there is a significant difference between the two. To be clear, I sympathize with elements of both movements - the Tea Party's theme of limited government and restoration of federalism, and the Occupy Movement's theme of corporate America's innate dysfunction and disconnect. I also disgree with both on many other issues. At the same time, from a practical analysis, I think the Tea Party has been (and will continue to be) a far more effective grass roots movement.

Unlike the the Tea Party, the Occupy movement is not actually organizing change it's just pouting about the problem. The Tea Party group - regardless of what you think of their message - organized, worked within the system, and elected numerous people who they believed would effect change. They were effective in that many politicians reflecting the "status quo" were defeated despite being backed by "the machine" (as it were). The Occupy folks have a clear and simple way to effect corporate change - buy in. Buy stocks and organize voting blocks within the corporations. It's hard, it's a lot of work, it would involve many setbacks, but there is a way for them to effectively change the structure. There is also, of course, the Tea Party route - identify an agenda, find individuals who support that agenda to run against machine politicians, and work like hell to elect those individuals -- or you can just sit in your own stench and whine. I am sure that will be effective too.

Just like the Tea Party, the Occupy movement oversimplifies both the problem & the solution and is just blatantly wrong on many things. They are every bit as stupid as those in the Tea Party whom the left likes to pillory. Of course, the dumb Tea Partiers probably don't have degrees from "I Am Smarter Than You & My Sh** Don't Stink" University so they are easier to pick on.

Excellent post.

Since the OWS movement has vague goals and even vaguer paths for achieving them, I have wondered how it can be brought to an end. When will people stop sitting in? For example, an anti-war movement can be ended by ending a war. But what can be given to the OWS folks to make them feel like, "We've achieved our goals"?

The only proximate endpoint that I can see for the Occupy movement is the onset of cold weather.

Excellent post.

Since the OWS movement has vague goals and even vaguer paths for achieving them, I have wondered how it can be brought to an end. When will people stop sitting in? For example, an anti-war movement can be ended by ending a war. But what can be given to the OWS folks to make them feel like, "We've achieved our goals"?

The only proximate endpoint that I can see for the Occupy movement is the onset of cold weather.

Or large corporations can show up and dump buckets of money and they would all leave to go buy Birkenstocks and bongs.

Excellent post.

Since the OWS movement has vague goals and even vaguer paths for achieving them, I have wondered how it can be brought to an end. When will people stop sitting in? For example, an anti-war movement can be ended by ending a war. But what can be given to the OWS folks to make them feel like, "We've achieved our goals"?

The only proximate endpoint that I can see for the Occupy movement is the onset of cold weather.


You know why it's not clear? THE MEDIA. They don't want to make it clear. They want to make it look like they are some rambling idiots just protesting just to protest. It's simple.

1) Criminally charge those who ran the economy/banking industry into the ground.

2) Remove corporate/wall street ties with government.

3) Tax corporations appropriately.


There is no ****ing way that those assholes that ran this economy into the ground should be walking away with hundreds of millions of dollars, while sticking the American people with the bill. **** that. Arrest the criminals and send them to jail. Liquidate ALL of their assets and give it back to the people/government.

The reason they aren't being tried and convicted is, they are in bed with the politicians. They are major contributors and basically set the policy at hand. The politicians aren't going to take a stand because it's biting the hand that feeds them, and many of them are making huge gains off of the very stuff they let slide.

Or large corporations can show up and dump buckets of money and they would all leave to go buy Birkenstocks and bongs.

Profile much?

You know why it's not clear? THE MEDIA. They don't want to make it clear. They want to make it look like they are some rambling idiots just protesting just to protest. It's simple.

1) Criminally charge those who ran the economy/banking industry into the ground.

2) Remove corporate/wall street ties with government.

3) Tax corporations appropriately.


There is no ****ing way that those assholes that ran this economy into the ground should be walking away with hundreds of millions of dollars, while sticking the American people with the bill. **** that. Arrest the criminals and send them to jail. Liquidate ALL of their assets and give it back to the people/government.

The reason they aren't being tried and convicted is, they are in bed with the politicians. They are major contributors and basically set the policy at hand. The politicians aren't going to take a stand because it's biting the hand that feeds them, and many of them are making huge gains off of the very stuff they let slide.

I guess the media is also on youtube making these people look like fools without a clear msg. The part I highlight is the only thing you posted I agree with. You wnat the people convicted but the problem is that most of the people who ran this into the ground did not break laws they just made poor decisions or greedy decisions.