FRPLG
11-21-2011, 03:42 PM
couldnt the cops have just plastic tied their arms behind their backs then carried them off one at a time?
yeah know, like they pretty much did right after giving them a pepper spray shower?
idk, seems things like carrying them away would be an option well before "shake can, point, spray in face from close range".
anyways, sad the occupy movement is starting to be defined and covered as a occupy v. police situation instead of a occupy v. big biz corruption platform.
lets face it, im pretty pissed i got to work for 30 years and pay my bank 750k for a 200k loan. it shouldnt be this hard to just make ends meet and squeek through life.
That's how a loan works. Your other option is to save money for a long time and pay cash. Not sure what you think the bank should be doing differently as it applies to providing you a home loan.
drew54
11-21-2011, 04:02 PM
Ten Things You Should Know About Friday’s UC Davis Police Violence « Student Activism (http://studentactivism.net/2011/11/20/ten-things-you-should-know-about-fridays-uc-davis-police-violence/)
In my opinion, on this one, both sides should have some regrets.
over the mountain
11-21-2011, 04:42 PM
That's how a loan works. Your other option is to save money for a long time and pay cash. Not sure what you think the bank should be doing differently as it applies to providing you a home loan.
But should it be that way? Should we just accept the status quo that big business lays out for us?
the state of maryland created this auto insurance entity called MAIF (md auto ins fund) that has to provide auto ins to md licensed drivers who have been denied by 2 or more auto ins companies. this is b/c auto ins is required in md and the state had to provide some protection for md drivers who couldnt otherwise get approved for insurance.
last year, MAIF decided they were going to cut their rates b/c they were operating a 146 million dollar surplus. the other insurance companies complained that it would hurt their competitive market if MAIF dropped their rates below the industry average and that it would cause MAIF to possibly become default.
MAIF said how is cutting our rates by 6 million going to make us default? all it will do is mean we wil be running a 140 mil instead of a 146 mil surplus.
These big business industries are bleeding us dry.
corporate greed is rampant. i get it, its a capitalist market, yada yada yada.
but i shouldnt have to work this hard just to eek by in life. health insurance and banks push as far as they can.
firstdown
11-22-2011, 12:01 PM
But should it be that way? Should we just accept the status quo that big business lays out for us?
the state of maryland created this auto insurance entity called MAIF (md auto ins fund) that has to provide auto ins to md licensed drivers who have been denied by 2 or more auto ins companies. this is b/c auto ins is required in md and the state had to provide some protection for md drivers who couldnt otherwise get approved for insurance.
last year, MAIF decided they were going to cut their rates b/c they were operating a 146 million dollar surplus. the other insurance companies complained that it would hurt their competitive market if MAIF dropped their rates below the industry average and that it would cause MAIF to possibly become default. The ins. companies want that surplus there to protect them from having to bail out the MAIF.
MAIF said how is cutting our rates by 6 million going to make us default? all it will do is mean we wil be running a 140 mil instead of a 146 mil surplus.
These big business industries are bleeding us dry.
corporate greed is rampant. i get it, its a capitalist market, yada yada yada.
but i shouldnt have to work this hard just to eek by in life. health insurance and banks push as far as they can.
Thats an assumption that could prove to be wrong. Do you know who has to bail out the MAIF if it fails? The insurance companies that write auto ins. in MD so there is more to the story. The ins. companies want that suplus to keep them from having to bail out the MAIF.
over the mountain
11-22-2011, 01:04 PM
Thats an assumption that could prove to be wrong. Do you know who has to bail out the MAIF if it fails? The insurance companies that write auto ins. in MD so there is more to the story. The ins. companies want that suplus to keep them from having to bail out the MAIF.
yeah in fact I think ins companies have to pay alil something into a "just in case" fund which Im sure is repaid every year when the fund didnt need to be tapped.
But my point is there is unnecessary corporate greed.
just look at my Bank of America thing. B of A is posting their highest profits in 4 years or so at teh same time they have been intentionally and strategically overdrating me to charge me $35 a pop for the past 7 years or so . . they had been doing this to me when I was at my lowest and most vulnerable financial moments.
that BofA thing justs shows, banks at least BofA is blood thirsty.
they dont give a dang about anybody except increasing their bottom line, even if they have to lie cheat and steal your money from you.
Does anyone want to defend BofA in their overdraft class action lawsuit?
NC_Skins
11-22-2011, 01:27 PM
OBAMA HECKLED IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BY OCCUPY WALL STREET SUPPORTERS (http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-heckled-in-new-hampshire-by-occupy-wall-street-supporters-2011-11#ixzz1eSRYky2O)
How people even support this guy still is amazing.
mlmpetert
11-22-2011, 01:48 PM
OBAMA HECKLED IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BY OCCUPY WALL STREET SUPPORTERS (http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-heckled-in-new-hampshire-by-occupy-wall-street-supporters-2011-11#ixzz1eSRYky2O)
How people even support this guy still is amazing.
Well Jimmy Carter, a lot of the media and others have pointed out opposition towards Obama is mainly because of racism. Here i was thinking OWS protesters were just anti-semitic....
over the mountain
11-22-2011, 01:57 PM
i think a noticeable portion of Obama hatte is b/c of racism.
Have you read the comments on fox news or the blaze? 9/10 of are just comparing michelle obama to a monkey.
I think its easy to think overt racism doesnt exist when you live in or around DC which is such a mettling pot of diversity. When me and my lady go outside of the urban areas we get looks and stares. I could only imagine what it would be like if we went to a rural area of middle america or down south.
racism from blacks and whites is alive and well imo and experience.
NC_Skins
11-22-2011, 02:15 PM
I'm not ignoring your lame stance on the police abuse either JR. I really don't even think it deserves a response, and the fact you are taking up for the police is sickening as is. So you think that it's not ok if other countries put their people in line when they peacefully protest, but it's ok for our country to use it's police to do so against its citizens?...lol Hypocritical to say the least. I suggest you reread what Obama's quote in that picture again, and then tell me if he meant America as well. Apparently he didn't which is exactly why he's allowing that crap to continue on instead of putting his foot up some of those local mayors asses.
Freedom of speech isn't free if you put a time limit on it or require a "permit" for it. It's a ****ing joke and to defend it angers me so don't even bother doing it. There is no justification unless you simply support a police state.
Guys, you can have free speech from the hours of 8am to 11pm, but only on Monday through Friday. Oh, you have to get a permit and have it approved by our council. Thanks in advance. FUUUCK that. Maybe that's just the anarchist in me.
I will go on record and say I support any and all violence against authority in situations where police abuse their authority. Being a cop doesn't give you a right to abuse your position of power to break the laws yourself. People have a right to defend themselves, even if it's against the tyranny of it's own government.
My friend had a great quote.
"Obedient citizens never fixed anything."
This in regards to you harping about them breaking the laws, and condoning the police brutality acts.
NC_Skins
11-22-2011, 02:20 PM
OTM,
Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/us/2011/11/20/nr-ucdavis-protest-incident.cnn)
That lame and bullshit lie that the cops were surrounded and needed a way out. It's clear the cop stepped over the line, JUST so he could spray them. Those people weren't blocking them in any way. People like this should be pulled out of their home and beat merciless.