'Occupy' types

that officer who threw the flash gernande is a POS.

he deliberately threw it nonchalantly underhanded (without moving his body or arms, just flicking his wrist underhanded) so a video perhaps wouldnt pick it up.

what a POS. there are a bunch of stupid power tripping dirty cops. ive had run ins with them ive written about on here, weve all seen the various videos we sometimes post on here.

there are some bad ones, some good ones. but it really gets me that this guy knew he was doing somehting dirty b/c he tried to do it inconspicuously which clearly shows an intentional malicious act with knowledge it was wrong.

Im in the middle on this. Im nearly positive the injuries to the Marine came from a tear gas container or other crowd disbursement weapon fired from the police. But the guy should have fled once the police started firing tear gas, instead he just stood there and took on the risk that something could happen. If he had left he wouldn’t have been hit by a canister and perhaps the police wouldn’t have had the need to fire additional canisters. I think police abuse powers but that doesn’t give me the right not to pull over when a cop car flashes his lights, or waive my responsibility to disperse when they fire tear gas at me.

How dare you not have a polarized option!

Since you agree so much with the Occupy movement, why don't you get more involved and give the movement what it most lacks: concrete direction?


I didn't ignore this earlier so here is my response. It's not in my best interest or the interest of the movement to go anywhere near those protests. Why you ask? Because I'm not the type of person that responds to bullies well at all. I hold the mentality of that this guy has.


Roadhouse - YouTube

I'm nice, until it's time not to be nice. A cop does something dirty like that with the flash bang, I'm coming back with Molotov bombs. I'd personally rather let peace reign and get the issues fixed than have some spark (whether a dirty cop or hot tempered person) ignited into something bloody and violent. If I ever feel the people are being brutalized by the cops, then that's when I'll show up to fight for my fellow Americans. I like bullying the bullies.

Given the numbers involved and the fact that protests are all taking place in the heart of very busy cities, I would suggest that the fact that only one protester has been seriously injured is a testament to the restraint of both the police and the protestors. I would suggest that, had the OWS movement tried this stunt in the 50's, 60's or even early 70's, that the level of violence would have been significantly higher. I commend both sides for conducting a mostly civil, mostly peaceful protest that is mostly safe to the property and person of those not choosing to be part of the protest. I do not doubt there will be an investigation into Mr. Scott's injury and, if the police are determined to have acted in an unprofessional manner that caused harm, sanctions will follow (again, crowd control has come a long way since the 60's - as I am not convinced such an investigation would have happened then). .


I can agree with a majority of what you said, and without a doubt it's no easy task to monitor that many people all the while having your other duties. If anything, you just block the area and let it be. No sense of igniting something that shouldn't be ignited. Who cares in the end if a street or two is blocked off?

I disagree with the "investigation" bullshit though. How many times have we seen these "investigations" only to clear the cop of any and all wrong doing even though there is significant evidence to prove otherwise? Hell, even the cops in the Rodney King beating were cleared...lol That's my biggest issue with cops now. It's not that cops do these bad things, it's that their leadership covers for them and hides the truth.

that officer who threw the flash gernande is a POS.
he deliberately threw it nonchalantly underhanded (without moving his body or arms, just flicking his wrist underhanded) so a video perhaps wouldnt pick it up.

what a POS. there are a bunch of stupid power tripping dirty cops. ive had run ins with them ive written about on here, weve all seen the various videos we sometimes post on here.

there are some bad ones, some good ones. but it really gets me that this guy knew he was doing somehting dirty b/c he tried to do it inconspicuously which clearly shows an intentional malicious act with knowledge it was wrong.

Thats the type of thing you see in communist China. Really no excuse. Especially after beating down an unarmed iraq war vet. Pathetic use of force by the police.

I didn't ignore this earlier so here is my response. It's not in my best interest or the interest of the movement to go anywhere near those protests. Why you ask? Because I'm not the type of person that responds to bullies well at all. I hold the mentality of that this guy has.

I'm nice, until it's time not to be nice. A cop does something dirty like that with the flash bang, I'm coming back with Molotov bombs. I'd personally rather let peace reign and get the issues fixed than have some spark (whether a dirty cop or hot tempered person) ignited into something bloody and violent. If I ever feel the people are being brutalized by the cops, then that's when I'll show up to fight for my fellow Americans. I like bullying the bullies.

So, essentially, you prefer just to sit on the sideline and bitch but not do any of the actual hard work required to organize, fund and effectuate the change you so passionately believe is necessary.

Gotcha. Good thing you're not apathetic.

So, essentially, you prefer just to sit on the sideline and bitch but not do any of the actual hard work required to organize, fund and effectuate the change you so passionately believe is necessary.

Gotcha. Good thing you're not apathetic.


You can mock me all you want. You don't know me and you don't know what I will or will not do. If a guy tells you his limitations, respect that. I have no problem doing any work behind the scenes or giving funds to the movement. You are taking my statement and making the conclusion I wouldn't put any effort into the movement. Why do you have to be on the street to support the movement? You know what you sound like? You sound like some of those Redskins fans that say you aren't a true Redskin fan unless you attend games...lol

I didn't ignore this earlier so here is my response. It's not in my best interest or the interest of the movement to go anywhere near those protests. Why you ask? Because I'm not the type of person that responds to bullies well at all. I hold the mentality of that this guy has.


Roadhouse - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojPVOhHhwnk)

I'm nice, until it's time not to be nice. A cop does something dirty like that with the flash bang, I'm coming back with Molotov bombs. I'd personally rather let peace reign and get the issues fixed than have some spark (whether a dirty cop or hot tempered person) ignited into something bloody and violent. If I ever feel the people are being brutalized by the cops, then that's when I'll show up to fight for my fellow Americans. I like bullying the bullies.

So if you were there you would have thrown gasoline bombs at the police?
yea right.....

You can mock me all you want. You don't know me and you don't know what I will or will not do. If a guy tells you his limitations, respect that. I have no problem doing any work behind the scenes or giving funds to the movement. You are taking my statement and making the conclusion I wouldn't put any effort into the movement. Why do you have to be on the street to support the movement? You know what you sound like? You sound like some of those Redskins fans that say you aren't a true Redskin fan unless you attend games...lol

So are you giving funds to the movement?

I can agree with a majority of what you said, and without a doubt it's no easy task to monitor that many people all the while having your other duties. If anything, you just block the area and let it be. No sense of igniting something that shouldn't be ignited. Who cares in the end if a street or two is blocked off?

Except that everyone, not just the protestors have a right to use public property. What if you live or work there? What if your livelihood requires others to be able to reach you there? What if your health or safety requires routine access to the area either b/c you live there or you need something from the area? As usual, it's just not as simple as you try to make it.

I disagree with the "investigation" bullshit though. How many times have we seen these "investigations" only to clear the cop of any and all wrong doing even though there is significant evidence to prove otherwise? Hell, even the cops in the Rodney King beating were cleared...lol That's my biggest issue with cops now. It's not that cops do these bad things, it's that their leadership covers for them and hides the truth.

Undoubtedly, cops cover up cops actions. At the same time, I would suggest that police are also being subject to sanctions more often than at any time in history. In the era of internet, facebook and youtube, it is much more difficult for officers to escape scrutiny as they have in the past. Are there still abuses? Undoubtedly. Is there more accountability than there was even 30 years ago? I believe that also to be true.

And just so we're clear, rather than demonstrating a will to cover things up, I would suggest that the Rodney King affair demonstrates just how far the government will go to pursue justice when it comes to police abuse. The cops in the Rodney King beating were criminally charged and found not guilty by a jury who viewed the entire video not just the portions released to the public. They were subsequently recharged with civil rights violations and found guilty. Bottom line is, the State went to great lengths to secure significant sanctions of those cops.

But I digress ...