Worst off-season thus far? The NFL?

Posted by Phins

"Evidently, you didn't see Bud Selig testifying before a Senate Subcommittee trying to explain why the MLB's drug testing is so shabby compared to other major league sports. Tagliabue and Upshaw came out of that smelling like roses.

Furthermore, I don't think you've done much digging into the TO case, or you'd know that TO was likely to win the arbitration due to a phrase in his contract (which was approved by the NFL and NFLPA) which basically says he has until March 2nd to void his contract, and that the terms of his contract will supercede any changes in dates made by the CBA. Maybe you could blame the league for allowing that sort of wording in TO's contract, but you certainly cannot make the claim that the NFL is simply caving or that TO has no case. The facts show that he had a very good case, quite apart from his being an arrogant jerk and a squeaky wheel."

Not to take anything away from your opinion...but I was very thorough in my investigation of the situation. I am well aware of the situation and the fact that it looked like he was going to win the arbitration hearing. What you’re missing is the fact that the NFL is the one that a few weeks ago validated the fact that TO had missed the deadline. Essentially, if they had just better educated themselves on the matter.... this would not have gotten this far to begin with. Either way the NFL is showing incompetence.

Anyway...I can agree to disagree.....it was just my opinion and I was throwing out there.

Ramseyfan, I think the Niners could be pretty wretched as well. They've lost T.O., Hearst, Streets, and Garcia and what did they add on offense?

But weren't the 9ers moves dicatated by the cap? AFIK the Chargers don't have cap issues like that and neither do the fin's.

IMHO I'd say the worst is the Chargers. They seem like they can't get their collective heads out of their a##es. Marty isn't a draft genius either.

I questioned the Fin's picking up Boston as soon as it was announced. They need to settle on a starting QB and build the O around him and Williams. Boston wouldn't be my first choice for a trade.

3rd place is the Eagles. They've lost 3/4 of their secondary with no names to replace them. These may pan out if the back ups are good, but I agree that TO and Kearse are big gambles.

Remember that the Clarett hearing is the reason for the changed date. Owens situation was extraordinary, because without the Clarett case, there is no issue. The calendar doesn't change to meet the new guidelines.

Also, because Owens's contract was signed before the current CBA went into effect, there was enough wiggle room that he had leverage to force this deal.

My final point? Because the clubs brokered this deal, the league didn't have a chance to lose this case, or suffer an appeal if they won.

Phin, how'd you pick your username. Every time I see it I think Dolphins and that ain't right. --Smootsmack

Indeed it ain't. Phinehas has been my alter-ego for many years. As I recall, I first started using it to play Wizadry on an Apple IIgs. I needed a name for my main character, and not being particularly creative, started flipping through a Bible to find a good, ancient-sounding name. Phinehas (who was the son of Eleazar and grandson of Aaron, Moses' brother) seemed like a cool name and it had my initials, PES, imbedded in it. It stuck, and I've been using it ever since.

So, please put down the blackjack, Daseal...Daseal? Please? I'm not a Dolphin fan. Really. Hehehe...

Don't tell anyone (I certainly try not to), but I used to be a Bengals fan. I grew up near Cincy, though, so I have a decent excuse. It is great to see Marvin Lewis finally turning the franchise around. Even so, I'll be rooting for the 'skins when they play the Bengals later this year.

TheCDV, I understand where you are coming from, and appreciate the points you made. The league did indeed say that TO missed the deadline. Fortunately, since the clubs have hammered things out on their own, the league hasn't really been forced to look too bad regarding the earlier declaration. In any case, although I appreciate your agreeable disagreement, I still think the NFL is looking pretty good compared to MLB, with its steroid issues and glaring inequities in team buying power. Thanks for the different perspective, though. :)

--Phin

Indeed it ain't. Phinehas has been my alter-ego for many years. As I recall, I first started using it to play Wizadry on an Apple IIgs. I needed a name for my main character, and not being particularly creative, started flipping through a Bible to find a good, ancient-sounding name. Phinehas (who was the son of Eleazar and grandson of Aaron, Moses' brother) seemed like a cool name and it had my initials, PES, imbedded in it. It stuck, and I've been using it ever since.

So, please put down the blackjack, Daseal...Daseal? Please? I'm not a Dolphin fan. Really. Hehehe...

Don't tell anyone (I certainly try not to), but I used to be a Bengals fan. I grew up near Cincy, though, so I have a decent excuse. It is great to see Marvin Lewis finally turning the franchise around. Even so, I'll be rooting for the 'skins when they play the Bengals later this year.

TheCDV, I understand where you are coming from, and appreciate the points you made. The league did indeed say that TO missed the deadline. Fortunately, since the clubs have hammered things out on their own, the league hasn't really been forced to look too bad regarding the earlier declaration. In any case, although I appreciate your agreeable disagreement, I still think the NFL is looking pretty good compared to MLB, with its steroid issues and glaring inequities in team buying power. Thanks for the different perspective, though. :)

--Phin

Thanks for the clarification...I guess I don't know my Bible all that well

Ramseyfan-
I had to give you props over this line-
Drew Brees- turned out to bee a bust-
The double b's there were not lost on me. I got a good chuckle out of that.
Excellent analysis as well!

Ramseyfan-
I had to give you props over this line-
Drew Brees- turned out to bee a bust-
The double b's there were not lost on me. I got a good chuckle out of that.
Excellent analysis as well!


how can brees be considered a bust already when it's only been what 2 years since he got drafted and look at the offense he plays for: Schottenhiemer!! it's not like he's been a very qb friendly coach from what I remember and the caoch keeps on putting the old timer Flutie in and never really lets brees get into any rythm. plus look at Brees recievers the past couple years. other than Tomlinson, he hasn't really had squat. I remember seeing this guy play in college and if he's in a decent, balanced offense with atleast somewhat above average talent to throw to, he should be atleast decent. I'm not saying in any way that he'll be a hall of famer but he isn't a bust yet. plus it's not like he was a first round pick either so there weren't the same type of expectations as say Ryan Leaf.

how can brees be considered a bust already when it's only been what 2 years since he got drafted and look at the offense he plays for: Schottenhiemer!! it's not like he's been a very qb friendly coach from what I remember and the caoch keeps on putting the old timer Flutie in and never really lets brees get into any rythm. plus look at Brees recievers the past couple years. other than Tomlinson, he hasn't really had squat. I remember seeing this guy play in college and if he's in a decent, balanced offense with atleast somewhat above average talent to throw to, he should be atleast decent. I'm not saying in any way that he'll be a hall of famer but he isn't a bust yet. plus it's not like he was a first round pick either so there weren't the same type of expectations as say Ryan Leaf.


Agreed, Marty has a real way with QB's doesn't he! :cheeky-sm

Personally I think the G-spot's have had the worst off season, other than coughlin who I like, I think they really missed the boat on free agency as usual, the word in jersey is that tim lewis is going with a brand new system on D, he will be running a 3-2 this way the budget boy's can save money on LB's. :cheeky-sm