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12thMan
10-02-2011, 06:41 PM
Shanahan bench Plummer for Cutler when I think the Broncos were 7-4 and atop the division...so it's not out of the realm of possibility. But I wouldn't make the move and Beck isn't a rookie

Besides, I think too many other things are clicking for the team overall.

rbanerjee23
10-02-2011, 06:41 PM
You could also argue that he was super unlucky. Hightower drops an easy catch. Moss drops an easy catch. A great throw to (I believe) Gaffney on 3rd down is negated because of a questionable false start on Jammal Brown.

Rex throws an awful ball on 3rd and 3 causing the skins to have to punt late in the game, underthrows Davis on another passing attempt -- we can go back and forth all day, he even had a play where he was flushed out of the pocket and didn't get it back to the line of scrimmage - a grounding penalty which the refs missed.

rbanerjee23
10-02-2011, 06:42 PM
No. What happens if you replace him and Beck comes in and plays worse? Go back to Rex? Hell no. You don't pull Rex until it starts costing us games, at that point, you put in Beck and roll with him the rest of the way.

What happens if Rex costs us a game or two and Beck comes in and plays really well?

SmootSmack
10-02-2011, 06:45 PM
Rex throws an awful ball on 3rd and 3 causing the skins to have to punt late in the game, underthrows Davis on another passing attempt -- we can go back and forth all day, he even had a play where he was flushed out of the pocket and didn't get it back to the line of scrimmage - a grounding penalty which the refs missed.

Exactly we can go back and forth that's why I don't tend to pay attention to the "well he could have an interception there" argument because it's easy to counter one "he could have" with another.

Ruhskins
10-02-2011, 06:47 PM
Shanahan bench Plummer for Cutler when I think the Broncos were 7-4 and atop the division...so it's not out of the realm of possibility. But I wouldn't make the move and Beck isn't a rookie

Bingo.

Dirtbag59
10-02-2011, 06:47 PM
No. What happens if you replace him and Beck comes in and plays worse? Go back to Rex? Hell no. You don't pull Rex until it starts costing us games, at that point, you put in Beck and roll with him the rest of the way.

I'll throw in my own cliche. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure :D

My main reason for considering Beck in the first place is a downward trend the last two games. And the usual excuses for poor QB play weren't in place for this game. The running game was excellent as was the protection (0 sacks on the day with only 4 QB hits). If you can get the Rex you got in week 1 then awesome, you don't replace that guy. However the guy we've seen the last two weeks at QB isn't that hard to replace. Also don't forget this is our bye week. If you're going to attempt a switch this is the ideal time.

over the mountain
10-02-2011, 06:48 PM
What happens if Rex costs us a game or two and Beck comes in and plays really well?

the defense and running game carried us?

either way it doesnt matter to me. personally i never thought rex had a super strong arm but i thought we'd be seeing more of a PA long ball than we have seen so far. i dont remember may passes over the top so far this year. we've had a good bit of 20+ pass plays but nothing over the top which i thought our running game then PA roll out would set up.

ps dirt i meant to mention that. from the surface a what? 15 for 31, 149pass yds, 1 td 2 int stat line is piss poor for a qb who got sacked zero times. is that possibly they worst stat line, qb rating for a qb who got sacked zero times? elias sports bureau? i think his qb rating was 49 or something

Dirtbag59
10-02-2011, 06:51 PM
the defense and running game carried us?

either way it doesnt matter to me. personally i never thought rex had a super strong arm but i thought we'd be seeing more of a PA long ball than we have seen so far. i dont remember may passes over the top so far this year. we've had a good bit of 20+ pass plays but nothing over the top which i thought our running game then PA roll out would set up.

That part has confused me this year. Where did the "f**k it I'm going deep" "chicks dig the long ball" jokes start? And it's ironic to, in the offseason Beck was the guy with the pop gun arm and Grossman was the guy that could push the ball downfield.

rbanerjee23
10-02-2011, 06:52 PM
Exactly we can go back and forth that's why I don't tend to pay attention to the "well he could have an interception there" argument because it's easy to counter one "he could have" with another.

True, except with Rex, when it's late in the game, he makes mistake after mistake and it's been the knock on him his whole career.

Chief X_Phackter
10-02-2011, 06:53 PM
Same thing that happens if you keep in Rex and he fumbles twice and throws 3 picks? But if Beck does it then fine you put back in Rex. Still Rex doesn't have the production to justify not considering Beck going into the bye.

I mean why do we keep on saying that the Redskins need to recreate the Hogs but God forbid we consider a QB switch, the type of coaching move that was seen relatively frequently during Gibbs I. By the way Shanahan isn't scared to bench a QB either. He benched Plummer in favor of a rookie Cutler when Plummer was a year removed from the Pro Bowl.

The bottom line is whats best for the team.


I would say that Rex doesn't have the lack of production to consider Beck. I would agree, however, that Beck doesn't have the production to consider Beck.lol

You go to Beck now you have to stick with him - barring an injury. That is the main reason I don't think it will happen. Shanny is not willing to make that gamble and potentially tank the season with the team sitting where it is. He would look like a fool if Beck came in and struggled - losing games single-handedly.

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