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12thMan
10-02-2011, 06:19 PM
To say it another way, you guys are pining for John Beck like he's the next coming of Bart Starr. He's not. From what I've seen, Beck is just as ordinary as Grossman. Marginally more athletic, mechanics are different but I'm not seeing a huge upgrade, if at all.

I don't think anyone here is saying that Rex Grossman is beyond being benched or even criticized. I believe wholeheartedly that every Skins fans understands Rex has his shortcomings that are liabilities, especially late in the game. So far though, those liabilities haven't cost us wins.

You chop off the top 5 or 6 QBs in this league and a lot of these guys fall squarely into Rex Grossman territory on most Sundays. I think the Skins should stand pat, not because Rex deserves it so much but because the team is playing well and there's no reason to see just for the sake of seeing. Let Rex study the film, sit down with Shanny and Kyle over the bye and reboot.

DCtoAZ
10-02-2011, 06:19 PM
Well I look at it like this .. Moss was responsible for 1 pick .. Hightower dropped crucial 3rd down play that would have kept momentum going .. yes he played ugly today but he also made some nice throws and we won the game .. perhaps you haven't seen the "BONEHEAD" plays Tony Romo made and/or makes ? Relax people, yes that game was a game that should have been slammed home 35-0 ... I would say playcalling was responsible for 75% of those turnovers .. why the F would we be throwing in that last situation anyways ? We have a 3 headed RB monster approaching our team and good rex bad rex is GOOD enough to get us at 3-1 heading into bye week in 1st Place. BTW we would be 4-0 if we would have played a little 'safe' defense like we did today when we needed to stop a 20+ yds play for 1st down ... Beck be ready, only if Rex gets injured otherwise we roll with our homey .. yeah he's a little chunky and a maniac and gives us all heart attacks but for whatever reason ... i'm feeling him .. Hail to the Sex Grossmans

pg86
10-02-2011, 06:21 PM
Im hung on this...you see had kyle not made shitty calls on 3rd down we'd have a Rex Resurection thread

On the otherhand we know Beck can get out the pocket and run that play action WAY better than rex

JoeRedskin
10-02-2011, 06:22 PM
Wow. Just wow. Okay, Rex isn't great - but he is good enough. We have a team that is focused and, 3 times in 4, has found a way to get the job done. But, yeah, let's f*** with what's got us here just 'cause. If Beck were a definite upgrade, sure. But he's not.

When Rex loses a game or two, then, okay, yank him.

But, when you're winning, don't mess with success. Duh.

rbanerjee23
10-02-2011, 06:22 PM
I wouldn't make a change until it costs us the game. At that point, I'd make the switch.

Isn't that kind of reactive? I mean, if the warning signs are all there saying get rid of this guy, shouldn't the move be made before he costs us a game?

Chief X_Phackter
10-02-2011, 06:24 PM
That's a cliche and has little to do with our actual situation. Right now we're committing turnovers and we're not moving the ball through the air. I never understood why QB's are virtually immune from benching. Redskins were 2-0 with Doughty starting, and 1-1 with Landry starting. Should we bench Landry? I'm tired of hearing about QB records, all to often it's used as a justification for poor play.

Just look at the Titans without Vince Young. QB records only mean so much.


No, it just means that this game is about more than one player. We'll probably never find out for sure, but IMHO Beck isn't going to give this team more wins than Grossman will.

Should close this thread, it is comical that we are even talking about this.

SOUL-SKINS
10-02-2011, 06:26 PM
I hate QBs who are stupid idoits dummies. :tongue

Not sure what that means but im assuming your're unhappy with Grossmans play.......3-1 dude. One pick his own fault the other was Santana's. Not a great but solid game for Rex

pg86
10-02-2011, 06:27 PM
Ok Im watching the replays....u know what...I don't think Rex is to blame...

1. Recievers aren't getting separation we are really missing Armstrong

2. Stop passing on 3rd and 3 Kyle

4. I'm seeing a ton of illegal touching on the guys covering fred davis thats going uncalled.

Don't blame Rex cept for that 1 int

over the mountain
10-02-2011, 06:28 PM
Pretty hard to bench your QB when you're 3-1, that's all I'm saying.

i think you should have let someone who thinks beck should get the start to start the thread.

they could have laid out more of a foundation, stats, reasons to start the discussion off instead of having this one sentence thread starter with no substance that seems to have killed any real evolution of a worthy thread imo.

i dont think we should start beck, i dont see us being any better off with either beck or rex but still . . . i think ya jump the gun purposely to kill possibly the most relevant discussion we could have for the next 13 days or so.

mooby
10-02-2011, 06:28 PM
12th if this thread has anything going for it, it's that it's madness.

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