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30gut 10-17-2011, 01:09 AM If today didn't provide enough evidence that Beck can't make the throws necessary to lead the offenseIt sure didn't for me.
I expect a nervous/amped up back-up in Beck shoes to look shaky early, the dude is basically a rookie albeit a few season removed.
But, you gotta admit he made some nice throws, some clutch throws.
He showed his mobility and he made some plays to avoid sacks.
..............."I hope we have fewer turnovers than touchdowns." Such is the only standard in which Beck can achieve success.I'm note sure how anyone can know Beck's ceiling? He could on be safe game managers don't 'screw it up' type QB or he could be an Andy Dalson/Ryan Fitpatrick.
It sure didn't for me.
I expect a nervous/amped up back-up in Beck shoes to look shaky early, the dude is basically a rookie albeit a few season removed.
But, you gotta admit he made some nice throws, some clutch throws.
He showed his mobility and he made some plays to avoid sacks.
I'm note sure how anyone can know Beck's ceiling? He could on be safe game managers don't 'screw it up' type QB or he could be an Andy Dalson/Ryan Fitpatrick.
Im sorta with you 30gut...What in the hell have we seen from beck to make this assesment that he's not gonna be better than rex?
Hey History of this team shows we just need a guy that can manage the game and run the playbook there are only 2 QB's in the Hall from this team correct? And Most of us weren't around to see them play (if you are old enough to remember Sammy Baugh I'd love to know your longevity secrets) Beck tossed up a few game equalizers our recievers needed to hold on. If anything I'd say we inserted him a wee bit too late....The test is next week...If Beck comes out and plays like Mr.Brady were gonna haave to eat alot of crow here.
Grossman is done.....if Beck does bad I suppose we'll see Crompton (did he make the roster?)
Bucket 10-17-2011, 01:39 AM I'm with you two as well. Nobody knows this guys limits yet
CultBrennan59 10-17-2011, 02:15 AM If I'm Shanahan I'm not even hesitating with Beck. I'm playing him next week, against a crappy panthers defense. But of course I have a bad feeling that he'll start Grossman again over him.
That Guy 10-17-2011, 02:33 AM I'm with you two as well. Nobody knows this guys limits yet
except the 2 teams that cut him and the 3 that didn't want him to start for them.
I think he's different, but I don't think he's necessarily any better. more mobile, less mistake prone, but his accuracy was AWFUL, missing wide open guys by 4 or 5 feet.
If MS wants to start beck that's fine, I don't think anyone could second guess that, I just don't think it's going to matter in the long run. both of these guys are 30 and neither of them is the answer, we've already seen enough to know that.
ponder looked better than either one of these guys today.
WilbursHomie 10-17-2011, 02:35 AM Two plusses to playing Beck. 1.) He won't play as bad a Grossman has. That's huge. He's not Tom Brady, hell, he's not Colt McCoy, but he'll manage the game. He may throw a pic first play, but he wont play like he thinks he's a lot more talented than he is like butt hole Rex Grossman. And 2.) and this one is kind of pathetic but, with Becks weak arm, maybe our OC will have less confidence in him and run the ball more. I just dont understand Mike and Kyle's obsession with Rex. He's a mediocre qb at best. Quit treating him like Joe Montana.
Bucket 10-17-2011, 02:42 AM except the 2 teams that cut him and the 3 that didn't want him to start for them.
I think he's different, but I don't think he's necessarily any better. more mobile, less mistake prone, but his accuracy was AWFUL, missing wide open guys by 4 or 5 feet.
If MS wants to start beck that's fine, I don't think anyone could second guess that, I just don't think it's going to matter in the long run. both of these guys are 30 and neither of them is the answer, we've already seen enough to know that.
ponder looked better than either one of these guys today.
If history says anything then you really can't know till the guy gets' his "chance". A lot of QB's are deemed average and have above average careers. Alex Smith looks like the second coming of Steve Young in San Fran now, when for the past 5 years he's been considered a asset to the team.
You just never know, and the Redskins wont know untill next week and later in the season if Beck can give them some great years here. If he turns out good, I wont be saying "I told you so" because I don't have a clue to how this guy will pan out.
Bucket 10-17-2011, 02:43 AM Two plusses to playing Beck. 1.) He won't play as bad a Grossman has. That's huge. He's not Tom Brady, hell, he's not Colt McCoy, but he'll manage the game. He may throw a pic first play, but he wont play like he thinks he's a lot more talented than he is like butt hole Rex Grossman. And 2.) and this one is kind of pathetic but, with Becks weak arm, maybe our OC will have less confidence in him and run the ball more. I just dont understand Mike and Kyle's obsession with Rex. He's a mediocre qb at best. Quit treating him like Joe Montana.
I don't agree.. I think Rex's arm is overrated. Beck has the better arm of the two QB's in my opinion and a faster release.
Dirtbag59 10-17-2011, 03:19 AM Two plusses to playing Beck. 1.) He won't play as bad a Grossman has. That's huge. He's not Tom Brady, hell, he's not Colt McCoy, but he'll manage the game. He may throw a pic first play, but he wont play like he thinks he's a lot more talented than he is like butt hole Rex Grossman. And 2.) and this one is kind of pathetic but, with Becks weak arm, maybe our OC will have less confidence in him and run the ball more. I just dont understand Mike and Kyle's obsession with Rex. He's a mediocre qb at best. Quit treating him like Joe Montana.
Actually Beck is the one with the strong arm so if anything we should see more downfield passes. People just seem to think that Grossman has a strong arm due to the "f**k it I'm going deep" meme. Myself included.
Serves us right though. We finally play the QB that can run the bootleg off play action and the left side of our line, that was key in running the ball so effectively, goes down. Still that mobility of Beck's is going to be a huge asset
SirClintonPortis 10-17-2011, 03:31 AM Actually Beck is the one with the strong arm so if anything we should see more downfield passes. People just seem to think that Grossman has a strong arm due to the "f**k it I'm going deep" meme. Myself included.
Serves us right though. We finally play the QB that can run the bootleg off play action and the left side of our line, that was key in running the ball so effectively, goes down. Still that mobility of Beck's is going to be a huge asset
I can say that I noticed Rex's weaker arm even in preseason. But I have always been a stickler for trying to be empirical. :D
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