Hall of Fame Class of 2012

Yes, his 2 Super Bowls in NY and 3rd in NE, who was by his side as DC? Belicheck. When Belicheck wasn't there - what did Parcells do? Bill B was HC in Cleveland from 91-95. How many Super Bowls did Parcells go to then?

He made the playoffs in Dallas but got no where. Miami wasn't any better. Parcells only real success happened not because of Parcells.

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Is this guy for real?

So who assembled the talent on those teams that went to the Super Bowl? Belicheck? In fact, you do realize that a core of the players that Belicheck won his first Super Bowl with were drafted by Parcells. Parcells put the talent on the Cowboys squad to contend year in and year out, and we were fortunate that Jerry chose that idiot Wade to coach it. Had it been a decent coach, the Boys would have won 2 more Super Bowls by now. Also, turned Miami to last place loser to division champs.

If you want to swing on Belicheck's sack that much, what is your excuse for the Cleveland Browns showing?


Parcells is probably one of the most talented guys ever in NFL history when it comes to talent and coaching. In fact, if I had to let one guy build my team from ground up and could chose one person the history of the NFL, it would in fact be Parcells. Hands down.

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Is this guy for real?

So who assembled the talent on those teams that went to the Super Bowl? Belicheck? In fact, you do realize that a core of the players that Belicheck won his first Super Bowl with were drafted by Parcells. Parcells put the talent on the Cowboys squad to contend year in and year out, and we were fortunate that Jerry chose that idiot Wade to coach it. Had it been a decent coach, the Boys would have won 2 more Super Bowls by now. Also, turned Miami to last place loser to division champs.

If you want to swing on Belicheck's sack that much, what is your excuse for the Cleveland Browns showing?


Parcells is probably one of the most talented guys ever in NFL history when it comes to talent and coaching. In fact, if I had to let one guy build my team from ground up and could chose one person the history of the NFL, it would in fact be Parcells. Hands down.

I certainly am not against debate, especially since I have taken an unpopular position and have been defending it.

If you want to engage me in debate, then read what I have already posted before you tell me I am wrong. I say this because you are asking me questions I have already addressed.

Yes, his 2 Super Bowls in NY and 3rd in NE, who was by his side as DC? Belicheck. When Belicheck wasn't there - what did Parcells do? Bill B was HC in Cleveland from 91-95. How many Super Bowls did Parcells go to then?

He made the playoffs in Dallas but got no where. Miami wasn't any better. Parcells only real success happened not because of Parcells.

Tom Brady is that you??? ya better go get to watching some film before the Orange Crush and Tebow come break the 7th Seal on your ass.

Tom Brady is that you??? ya better go get to watching some film before the Orange Crush and Tebow come break the 7th Seal on your ass.
As a lifetime Steeler fan, that is just flat out mean.:spank:

I certainly am not against debate, especially since I have taken an unpopular position and have been defending it.

If you want to engage me in debate, then read what I have already posted before you tell me I am wrong. I say this because you are asking me questions I have already addressed.

I think you are entitled to your opinion, but it sounds like you are over reaching with your arguments against Parcells. I really don't care much about Parcells, but it is a bit ridiculous to argue that his success came ONLY because of Bill Belichick. One of the hallmarks of good head coaches is their ability to mentor and develop their assistant coaches and coordinators. In the end, I would have imagine that Parcells had to hire and supervise Belichick, and the other coaches that serve under him. I mean if we go with your argument, should we say that Joe Gibbs lack of success in his second round of being a head coaches shows that he was nothing without his previous asst. coaches and coordinators? I think not.

30th anniversary of "The Catch" today. I brought that up to a few Cowboy lovers this morning. The didnt think it was quite as memorable as i did. D.D Lewis one of the LBer's chasing Montana on the play came to my place of employment a few years ago gave a motivational speech. Afterwards many emoployees were lined up getting pictures and his autograph. I took off in the other direction and someone said hey arnt you gona get his autograph and a picture, i said naw I'm good!! HTTR my faith runs deep!!

Gary Reason should get in for this hit.

Gary Reasons THE HIT - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehSmLq9J4yc&feature=related)

Gary Reason should get in for this hit.

Gary Reasons THE HIT - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehSmLq9J4yc&feature=related)


yeah that is prety good.he had a better one on Earl Campell where he bent his own facemask....Harry Carson said it was the hardest hit he has ever seen.

Enshrinement » 2012 Finalists comparative stats: Coaches - W-L-T (http://www.profootballhof.com/enshrinement/2012/1/11/2012-finalists-comparative-stats-coaches-w-l-t/)
I just saw this on the HOF website and it illustrates my point about when Parcells had success.

His Giants Super Bowls were only when Bill B was his DC

He was 50% career with the Patriots and the only successful year was when Bill B left the Browns and was his DC.

He won 60% when Bill B was his DC with the Jets and barely over 50% when he was at the Cowboys.

The later years are really telling.

Geeeeeze!! Parcdells and Belichick will both be in there sooner or later!!! Give it a break!!