Who Can Lead This Team?

If by gunslinger you mean he wishes he was a Cowboy, after seeing that performance last night I'd have half a mind to agree.

I've never heard of someone getting the "gunslinger" label with absolutely no athletic ability to make a play when the pocket breaks down. Farve, Vick, Cutler, Fitzpatrick, Romo, all guys that can extend the play by throwing darts, and making plays in precarious situations. I'd be surprised if Rex has a completion rate of 10% outside the pocket on plays that aren't designed bootlegs. He's simply a remiss QB. Nothing more.

Again, it's not like I'm the clever guy who just hung the "gunslinger" label on Grossman, as much as it might help your argument.

Sorry to be a logical inconvenience, but:

Rex Grossman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Grossman)



Playing style
Grossman’s gunslinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_American_football#G) attitude is illustrated in his desire to throw long passes, similar to his youth idol, Brett Favre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre).[72] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Grossman#cite_note-71)[73] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Grossman#cite_note-72) During the 2006 season, Grossman had an above average completion rate when throwing passes worth twenty or more yards, but struggled to complete shorter passes. According to columnist Paul Attner of Sporting News (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporting_News), this attitude contributed to Grossman's inconsistent play.[74] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Grossman#cite_note-73)[75] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Grossman#cite_note-74) During Week 12 of the 2006 season, Grossman threw a game-ending interception while attempting a deep pass to Rashied Davis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashied_Davis).[76] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Grossman#cite_note-75) However, during the divisional game in the 2006 playoffs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006%E2%80%9307_NFL_playoffs), he threw a 68-yard touchdown pass to Berrian on the opening play of the Bears’ second drive.[77] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Grossman#cite_note-76)
Additionally, Grossman’s ability to elude pursuers and scramble (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scramble) has significantly decreased since his season ending leg injury in 2004.[78] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Grossman#cite_note-rams-77) Although he only played three games in 2004, Grossman amassed more rushing yards than he did in sixteen games in 2006.[79] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Grossman#cite_note-allstat-78) However, he showed his potential to scramble during a game against the St. Louis Rams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Rams), after he converted a third and long with a twenty-two yard run. Though the run was the longest of Grossman’s career, it only gave him five net yards for the season at that point.[78] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Grossman#cite_note-rams-77)

U guys do remember that Rex is only in his 6th game as our starter and we had a short preseason.

SCP, what in the hell was that all about? I was rescrolling a rereading posts to see if I had missed something.......LOL

So this begs the question, who's shoulders can this offense trust and lean on?For leaderhip?

Santana Moss.

But if you're asking who the offense should be built around?

Hightower & Helu should be the focal point and leaders on the offense.

Wikipedia is really not most reliable source for information. I saw an excerpt from Wikipedia that claimed Dan Snyder was gay for dinosaurs. It's funny, but highly doubtful in the fact catagory.

For the most part, I think a number of decisions this coaching staff has made, personnel wise, this season have been great. Helu, Josh Wilson, Kerrigan, Bowens, Hank, OJ etc. all, in my opinion very good acquistions. But Fred Davis being virtually non-existent in the game last night, and essentially replacing his touches with what seems to be a smaller, slower, less menasing version of the Captain Chaos we are accustom to seeing, seems, atleast to me, like a very poor game planning decision. Especially when Fred Davis had been a dominant safety blanket in the first 2 games. Running stretch plays on most early 1st down scenarios. Redzone playcalling that discourages us from capitalizing on scoring opportunities, and turnovers. I realize that they're in the past, but the McNabb and Haynesworth debacles didn't really instill a solid foundation for trust. Larry Johnson, Joey Galloway. I'm not going to just accept these shaky decisions based on a lulling adherence to the Shanahan's past achievements. I will question.

Sorry if my initial statement was percieved as contentious, it wasn't my intent. I was looking for elaboration.

That's all.

With Rex as our QB, I can guarantee 2 wins, 4 others are toss ups and 7 are sure losses.

Rex played well against the Giants and terrible to next two games.

We could end up 4-12 with Rex as our QB, nobody wants that. BECK

Please, do tell me, any of you. Has any of our WRs or center done anything as ****ing stupid as Costa and the Dallas WRs did last night? Well, that's a damn good reason why Rex Grossman isn't screaming like a madman.

#2. I am ****ING sick and tired of "colloquial psychological theory" in which "leadership" is equivalent to just having more body language and screaming your ass off. When "leading" someone, you are trying to INFLUENCE their goddamn behavior. Going rah-rah-rah will not necessarily change anyone's behavior. There are a bunch of theories into leadership, but simply having more demonstrative body language and "screaming" ain't one of them.

And Beck can't lead? Who the **** was organizing those player workouts in the offseason. Yeah, Beck.

I might not care about religion, but all the forgiveness talk is bound to make non-members think sissyness is principle number 1.

I saw an excerpt from Wikipedia that claimed Dan Snyder was gay for dinosaurs. It's funny, but highly doubtful in the fact catagory.



Not only is that fact true, it also explains a lot.

Please, do tell me, any of you. Has any of our WRs or center done anything as ****ing stupid as Costa and the Dallas WRs did last night? Well, that's a damn good reason why Rex Grossman isn't screaming like a madman.

#2. I am ****ING sick and tired of "colloquial psychological theory" in which "leadership" is equivalent to just having more body language and screaming your ass off. When "leading" someone, you are trying to INFLUENCE their goddamn behavior. Going rah-rah-rah will not necessarily change anyone's behavior. There are a bunch of theories into leadership, but simply having more demonstrative body language and "screaming" ain't one of them.

And Beck can't lead? Who the **** was organizing those player workouts in the offseason. Yeah, Beck.

I might not care about religion, but all the forgiveness talk is bound to make non-members think sissyness is principle number 1.

After you're done with your rant, maybe you can tell us how you took DynamiteRave's statement that she doesn't think Beck has the leadership qualities to succeed under pressure to mean she was making some statement about "sissy white Mormon boys"

With Rex as our QB, I can guarantee 2 wins, 4 others are toss ups and 7 are sure losses.

Rex played well against the Giants and terrible to next two games.

We could end up 4-12 with Rex as our QB, nobody wants that. BECK

Rex did not play "terrible" against either the Cards or the Boys. He did make some bad plays, for sure, but he also made some positive plays as well.