Lotus
09-23-2011, 08:01 PM
We need a true multiparty system. The two party system is killing us because it polarizes discussion and buries legitimate alternative perspectives.
Has Anyone Else Completely Lost Faith In The Government?Lotus 09-23-2011, 08:01 PM We need a true multiparty system. The two party system is killing us because it polarizes discussion and buries legitimate alternative perspectives. Hog1 09-23-2011, 08:35 PM It's all about the $$ GMScud 09-23-2011, 10:18 PM We need a true multiparty system. The two party system is killing us because it polarizes discussion and buries legitimate alternative perspectives. This. CRedskinsRule 09-24-2011, 09:37 PM What multi-party system has been any more or less successful at answering the public's concerns? I ask, because I haven't done any serious research, and figure someone might know already. In my opinion, it is very much of a case where gov't simply has gotten too big/unaccountable. In that case a multiparty system doesn't seem to answer many of my basic problems, because they simply squabble and point fingers more than what we already have. I do know, that many multiparty systems simply abandon a govt structure when one thinks it has gained an advantage. My mind simply goes back to DeTocqueville's famous quote: The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. Alexis de Tocqueville He was as prescient in that as Jules Verne was about the Kennedy Space Center FRPLG 09-25-2011, 12:17 AM Yes for a long time now. I know our current two-party system is useless. firstdown 09-25-2011, 01:28 PM The problem is that people are looking for the government to do things its not designed to do. Its no longer "ask what you can do for the country" its become "what can my government do for me". NFLcrazy 09-25-2011, 02:00 PM The founding fathers tried everything to keep us away from a two party system. It will be the downfall of our nation! Alvin Walton 09-26-2011, 08:40 AM The founding fathers tried everything to keep us away from a two party system. It will be the downfall of our nation! Nice hyperbole.......... CRedskinsRule 09-26-2011, 09:08 AM The founding fathers tried everything to keep us away from a two party system. It will be the downfall of our nation! Um, how? Not being an idiot or jerk, but they set it up so that the leading vote getter was President, and the 2nd was Vice President. That kinda lends itself to vying for one of the top two candidates in the main election. By the time GW left, we had Thomas Jefferson and John Adams in two parties, the Federalist v the Democratic-Republican. Now a lot of them might have had reservations about it, but I would think trying everything would have included some form of requirement in the Constitution that either required more than 2 parties involved in elections, or proclaiming political parties unconstitutional. We have had 2 parties through good times and bad times. I personally am not in favor of the Republicans or Democrats at this point, but what needs to happen is that enough people realize neither one is really truthful that a new party with gumption takes hold, and the old establishment withers away. That has happened before, in times of dire trouble, and right now, we aren't there yet. We may be on the precipice, certainly the Tea Party is nipping at the Republicans tail, but there isn't (that I know of) one that is encompassing a broad enough scope to attract individuals away from the mainline parties. The use of media by the two mainstream parties really does cut both ways. If their message gets so crazy or out there, the public is not going to follow them, so they have to "stay on track" but there is a segment (about 30% for each main party) that is going to just lock stock and barrel follow what the leading thought of that party is. Truly though, if one party were just ridiculously lost, it would be replaced by the public. I am not a government fan, but multi-party system seems to me to be a placebo and not the solution. Or, put another way, it is like someone saying snacking 5 times a day is better than 3 big meals, but the snacks each consist of 2 whoppers, large fries, and a diet coke. It ain't gonna solve the fundamental problem that there is too much going in. firstdown 09-26-2011, 11:04 AM Like I said earlier its the size of government thats the problem. Se we give them a large some of our money each paycheck then we vote for who we think will give us back the biggest bang for our buck and if you don't work then your voting for the person who will give you the biggest chunck of someones elses money you did nothing to diserve. Take awy that money then your voting for the best person to run the country. |
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