Lotus
09-15-2011, 07:55 PM
Michael Moore is right on this one. One thing that separates our country from other places is our fair system of justice. And, under that system, bin Laden deserved a trial.
When Hasselbeck said that bin Laden did not have the right to a fair trial, she was essentially saying that we will abandon our principles of fairness and justice for bin Laden. In other words, no need for bin Laden to destroy the American way of life - Hasselbeck is willing simply to surrender it.
Now of course, bin Laden was killed rather than getting a trial and no one should lose any sleep over that. Sometimes bank robbers are killed in the midst of the crime and don't get their trials, either. But Hasselbeck argued for vengeance rather than justice and in so doing she sold out our country's greatest ideals.
SmootSmack
09-15-2011, 08:20 PM
Could you imagine being a family member of one of the victims of 9/11 and sitting there (in person or on tv) listening to Bin Laden defend himself and explain why he ordered what he did?
Alvin Walton
09-15-2011, 08:33 PM
Michael Moore is right on this one. One thing that separates our country from other places is our fair system of justice. And, under that system, bin Laden deserved a trial.
When Hasselbeck said that bin Laden did not have the right to a fair trial, she was essentially saying that we will abandon our principles of fairness and justice for bin Laden. In other words, no need for bin Laden to destroy the American way of life - Hasselbeck is willing simply to surrender it.
Now of course, bin Laden was killed rather than getting a trial and no one should lose any sleep over that. Sometimes bank robbers are killed in the midst of the crime and don't get their trials, either. But Hasselbeck argued for vengeance rather than justice and in so doing she sold out our country's greatest ideals.
I hope you're trolling becuase thats just (insert words to get warned by a mod)
Bin Laden deserved to die a horrible death with extreme prejudice ASAP from the hands of Americans. He is the greatest villian that ever countered the United States of America. To give him a nano fraction of quarter for more than a second is monumentally absurd.
And Michael Moore is an idiotic bucket of steaming rectum juice.
In a perfect world he would have had a trial.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.........
RedskinRat
09-15-2011, 09:58 PM
In a perfect world he would have had a trial.
And as I don't run the place it's never likely to be perfect.
Have to disagree with the trial: A trial would merely have give the scumbag a platform to spout his hatred. We need to get back on track of utterly vanquishing foes. Hearts and minds cost money and when money is involved the highest bidder is always going to win. House of Saud can outbid us any time and has.
Kill with extreme prejudice, make it very public and messy. Send the message of brutality to trump their brutality. Use unmanned drones early and often. Watch the ranks dwindle once the see the futility. Can you guess which side I'm on when I watch Star Wars?
Bring the troops home, secure the border.
saden1
09-15-2011, 10:32 PM
Osama commited suicide as soon as he concocted a plan and attacked American soil and he reaffirmed his death wish when he tried to reach for a weapon when the navy seals entered his room. Suicide by American Soldiers...it was inevitable, deserved, and just.
FRPLG
09-15-2011, 11:49 PM
Matty's right. In some utopian perfect vacuum world we capture him and hold him for trial. Too bad that world doesn't exist. Neither opinion seems to hold ground as the absolute truth. Saden's probably got it most right. It doesn't matter since he never would have let himself be captured. Suicide by soldier is right.
Lotus
09-16-2011, 07:45 AM
I hope you're trolling becuase thats just (insert words to get warned by a mod)
Bin Laden deserved to die a horrible death with extreme prejudice ASAP from the hands of Americans. He is the greatest villian that ever countered the United States of America. To give him a nano fraction of quarter for more than a second is monumentally absurd.
And Michael Moore is an idiotic bucket of steaming rectum juice.
Well, Hitler might get a mention, but essentially I agree with you on that point.
However, it doesn't change the fact that he deserved a trial under our system of justice. Charles Manson got a trial. Timothy McVeigh got a trial. Nazi war criminals got trials. Bin Laden should have gotten a trial. To deny him a trial would be to surrender the ideals which help to make us great, whether he used that trial to grandstand or not. The Constitution does not guarantee the right to a fair trial unless grandstanding will happen - it guarantees a fair trial, period.
But Saden is right: Like Hitler, bin Laden essentially committed suicide, making the point moot.
Dogtag
09-16-2011, 08:26 AM
He will be tried and judged - just not on earth.