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SmootSmack 09-11-2011, 12:03 PM That's exactly who the source is and it's a dead give away. Notice how there is no mention of how Bruce Allen came into the picture. Guess who wasn't around to see or hear how that came about. Vinny.
It's a 100% true. Some ES insiders were talking about this stuff back when it happened, and even alluded to the fact the reason we went after Cutler so hard was to draw in Shanny. They got killed by hatters back then, but the vindication is bittersweet I suppose.
I did point out he's doing what I wanted him to, in hiring football minds and staying the hell away. Also Smoot, are they enablers or guys that just does what Dan wants and take the fall (or bad PR) when it hits the fan? I mean, these guys weren't around when his company was slamming people to drive up it's value. Who was the blame then? It seems everywhere, there is always an excuse to Dan's actions. Personally, I think David Donovan was a huge douchebag and I'm glad he's gone. Karl Swanson either failed at his job hard or Danny simply didn't listen to his advice. Who knows really. Well, I really don't need to say anything about Vinny...lol
I'm glad to be moving on and will enjoy the ride with Bruce and Mike.
My experience with the three would lead me to say that Swanson (like Fred Drasner) is a power hungry bully, Cerrato is way too insecure and Donovan is a great guy put in a bad spot.
But what's done is done. It's football season! and I agree with your last sentence. And don't forget about Brown and Campbell. They've been key as well.
I'll drink to that.
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ps. my guess the timing of the article is in relation to when Wise was able to get confirmation from his source.(aka..vinny)
It took him 2+ years to confirm his source? Ok
Well, that's a bit misleading. Many of those years they excelled and were in the playoffs, other people were making the decisions. (Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells) You notice after those guys left, the teams dropped dramatically and for good reason. Jerry doesn't need to be the GM. He has no business at all being the man making personnel decisions.
3 in a row...somebody COMBO BREAKER!!
Yup, just look at Jerrah's track record since JJ left (and Switzer won with his sloppy seconds). Nothing too special.
NC_Skins 09-11-2011, 12:11 PM It took him 2+ years to confirm his source? Ok
Maybe I shouldn't have said "confirm his source", but instead used, "his source decided to talk about it." I doubt Vinny would have talked back then about what went on (or David D.). We don't know really. It's like asking why did Snyder decide to drop the lawsuit this week? It is what it is. Oh, there is a football game at 4 today!! :)
12thMan 09-11-2011, 12:24 PM Yeah, nothing in the article I found to be really explosive reporting. It was an interesting read, but that's about it. This shit goes on in the NFL all the time and anyone who thinks it doesn't are fooling themselves.
I'm ready for some football. Screw all this he said she said Portis bashing. Clinton Portis left here as the second leading rusher in Redskins history. A serious feat considering he played with sub-par talent, battled injuries, and saw a carousel of coaches during his tenure as a Redskin. Am I a Clinton Portis apologist? I don't think so. But the stuff he got away with and the ensuing apology was more symptomatic of the failure of front office management and leadership, than a real indictment of Portis' outsized ego. He simply exploited it.
For all the constant Snyder bashing, you guys really need to get over it. Dan Snyder's flaws and shortcomings are well documented, so one more article won't tip any opinions in either direction. I know it's hard to give him any sort of credit, but those clowns that helped him court Shanahan are no longer around the organization. At some point, we have to move on like it appears that Snyder has moved on.
SirClintonPortis 09-11-2011, 12:47 PM Yeah, nothing in the article I found to be really explosive reporting. It was an interesting read, but that's about it. This shit goes on in the NFL all the time and anyone who thinks it doesn't are fooling themselves.
I'm ready for some football. Screw all this he said she said Portis bashing. Clinton Portis left here as the second leading rusher in Redskins history. A serious feat considering he played with sub-par talent, battled injuries, and saw a carousel of coaches during his tenure as a Redskin. Am I a Clinton Portis apologist? I don't think so. But the stuff he got away with and the ensuing apology was more symptomatic of the failure of front office management and leadership, than a real indictment of Portis' outsized ego. He simply exploited it.
For all the constant Snyder bashing, you guys really need to get over it. Dan Snyder's flaws and shortcomings are well documented, so one more article won't tip any opinions in either direction. I know it's hard to give him any sort of credit, but those clowns that helped him court Shanahan are no longer around the organization. At some point, we have to move on like it appears that Snyder has moved on.
Ah, another example of one of the divine tenets of the Washington sports nobility. Production over work ethic and charactter, even if his relationship with the owner is right on par with an executive having an affair or nepotism.
12thMan 09-11-2011, 12:51 PM Ah, another example of one of the divine tenets of the Washington sports nobility. Production over work ethic and charactter, even if his relationship with the owner is right on par with an executive having an affair or nepotism.
If you say so.
Yeah, nothing in the article I found to be really explosive reporting. It was an interesting read, but that's about it. This shit goes on in the NFL all the time and anyone who thinks it doesn't are fooling themselves.
Yeah, it's a rehash of olds news with more details. Again, I find the timing to be pretty curious. Hours before the start of the season we have an article that digs up a 2 year old story. Perhaps it's the WaPo sensing they have one last chance to poke at the old regime before this team makes us forget all that nonsense.
That Guy 09-12-2011, 05:56 AM he didn't like his coach that wasn't very good, so he got advise from a superbowl winner?
I mean, the staff (mike/bruce) is a lot better now, so who cares. portis is gone, haynesworth is gone, mcnabb is gone. the team is playing well.
interesting story, but there's nothing more beyond that.
Time to put BS like this to bed?
I think so.
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