Brunell

Brunell will be back as Ramsey's backup, a high priced one at that.

Hopefully he can help mentor Ramsey for a season and we can let him go after that.

[QUOTE=Beemnseven]The Brunell fiasco ranks right behind the Herschel Walker trade QUOTE]

Dude, the Walker trade led to the Cowboys winning 3 super bowls.....don't see Jax doing that anytime soon, it was a bad trade, but at the time it made sense, alot of sense....

Brunnel is going to stay in Washington. Maybe they can get him to restructure so that we don't have a big cap hit until we release him in 2007. He is a smart guy and a proven QB. As a second string QB, I think he is an asset. (But not worth 43 M)!

I say we demand that he take a big pay-cut. I'm sure Brunell knows that he wouldn't be wanted by ANY NFL team after seeing his horrible performance. I think League minimum for a veteran sounds about right.

If I were Gibbs & I'm not. I would let things be as they are, but I would let Brunell know that he's only going to be our #2 or #3 from this point forward & if he sees another opportunity where he's gonna have a shot at starting restructuring & reducing his salary will be his only option he's got.

I'd leave the ball in his backfield.

Ramsey has proved that he's pregressing & Hasselbeck is going to serve great as our 2nd string. I'd look to draft a late rd QB or just leave Brunell as a solid #2/3.

The Skins are moving in the right direction regardless of the cap & Brunell.

GO SKINS '05!
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Actually it would be great for the Skins if Brunell and Samuels offered to restructure and I've heard hints to that effect. I don't know much about Samuels but I've always been told that Brunell is a class act, and if that's true he should be willing to restructure his contract to better match his contribution to the team.

Kevikazi:

OK, so you DEMAND that he take a pay cut to the league minimum - which for a vet of his standing is about $800K. If he agrees, you save about $700K in cap space which is almost enough to sign two special team rookies.

HOWEVER, what is your plan if Brunell tells you to stick it up your butt?

If you cut him because he won't take the cut, it will cost you $7M in cap space next year. Hell, if you are in a postion to eat that number, what difference will a $700K savings make?

If you tell him to take a pay cut or else and he refuses and you do nothing, how are you going to get some of the Meatheads on the team to follow the team rules. Your DEMANDS have to have consequences if they are not met.

So, in order to save about $700K you are willing to risk a $7M cap hit this year or having the rest of the team see that sometimes you talk big but don't back it up with actions? Not a good strategy...

That move and the Portis trade were made on stat's alone, nobody bothered to evaluate the player and see if they would fit in to what we do, Brunell was signed on his playmaking abilities of year's past, nobody figured out that he was never a conventional QB to begin with once his leg's are gone he's done, he cannot beat you standing in the pocket, same thing with Portis nobody checked to see that most of his yard's and TD's came against KC and their pourous defense, denver's running system is a wide open attack designed to produce big play's and take advantage of a back's flat line speed, Mike Anderson, and Olandis Gary, are these guy's great back's? Come on now, yet they were 1500yd runner's, look at what R. Drouns has done so far this year, these point's were not factored in these decision's, it is also why Shanahan was willing to give up a 1500 yard a year runner he new it was his system and Portis was nothing special. As for Brunell there was a reason he was about to be released until we came along everyone else worth their salt in talent evaluation knew he was done, if he wasen't the Jag's would have had plenty of trade offer's for a seasoned starting QB.

I couldnt agree with you more,when we signed Brunell I called in and talked to Howard Balzer of USA Today and asked him if we even gave Brunell a workout or if we just signed him,he said no workout,just signed,I thought that was a pretty stupid move then,especially for a guy coming off shoulder surgery and you give him a huge signing bonus without working him out? How fuckin stupid can you get?

In the WP today Brunell is saying he's not sure if he wants to be a backup next year, it's kinda funny how the roles have been reversed from when Ramsey was pouting about being a backup and there were rumors he wanted a trade.

Brunell thinks he can still start, problem for him is who would want him as their starter?? If he demands a trade, do you think anybody would be willing to take on his salary?

So if Brunell refuses to restructure and can't be traded...what options do we have? Just pay his enormous salary and have him sit on the bench? That's one expensive backup...and I'm sure Ramsey would be irritated that his backup is making more money than he is.