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firstdown
01-03-2005, 12:45 PM
Have you lost you're mind?!?!

For a CB(granted, not saying much) he is one of the better tacklers in the league. I agree, I think smoot is a good tackler and is not scared to take a hard hit. Hurrykaine,Bailey is a very poor tackler that would not take the hard hit to make the tackle. Kinda like Deion.

skinsguy
01-03-2005, 01:00 PM
I'm not saying Smoot is the best tackler but he doesn't stink at tackling. That honor goes to Dieon Sanders, lol!

In regards to the Dallas game...although throwing to Cooley MIGHT have kept the chains moving...an incomplete pass stops the clock. Running was the best thing we could do because it kept the clock running and forced Dallas to use their time-outs. In those situations, running is the better option....we just didn't run effectively.

hurrykaine
01-03-2005, 01:01 PM
One of the best moments of the season for me came yesterday, in a comcast sportsnet interview with Ryan Clark, who claimed that the defense had a horrible outing yesterday since they didn't create any turnovers to put the offense in decent scoring position.

Those are exceptionally high standards for a defense, and extremely ambitious remarks from a rookie safety. Gotta love that....just pray that G. Williams does infact come back next year.

skinsguy
01-03-2005, 01:12 PM
He's already stated he's coming back. I expect him to be here at least 3 years and maybe longer if he feels he has a good shot at Head Coach when Gibbs retires.

sportscurmudgeon
01-03-2005, 01:17 PM
hurrykaine:

Here are my grades per your listing:

Coaching staff: B- I agree with you here. This is a team that could have come apart at the seams with offense/devense finger pointing and it did not happen. That is what brings the grade up from C-/D+ which is what a 6-10 team has actually earned on the field.


Offense: Overall grade = D-. Look at the team record; look at where they rank in terms of scoring - the statistic that actually makes a difference when it comes to team record - and the Redskins offense this year is barely above abject failure.

jamf
01-03-2005, 01:40 PM
offensive players should be ranked only by effort.

here is a different viewpoint.
Gwilliams comes to town and everyone accross the board on defence has career years(well the players that played). smoot,springs,washington,griffin and a couple of other veterens played at a probowl level.

young players like ryan clark, lamar marshall and pierce really did will with the exception of pierce who was flat out amazing. wynn looked good. noble looked good.

the point is, Gwilliams put the players in the position to play at their best. he got everything out of his players.

the flip side is Gibbs.
coles, gardner, portis(not that bad),brunell, samuels, and dockery all had the worst years of their careers.
gardner looked downright aweful at times, why didnt McCants, jacobs and/or thrash get playing time?

Gibbs didnt use portis to the best of his abilities.
all the routes were garbage. i cant believe we have a receiver with 80+ catches and doesnt have a 1000 yards...

redskins have one of the worst offences in the league with pretty good talent. gibbs gets an F.

willaims has some good talent,but some major holes. they are in my oppinon the best D in the league. williams gets an A+


so basicly its not fair to grade the offensive players except gardner and brunell. brunell was so terrible he couldnt even throw in a highschool offence.
gardner dropped too many balls thats not acceptible.

wait, you can also grade thrash for playing everywhere and doing it was class and maximum effort.

cpayne5
01-03-2005, 01:45 PM
Smoot is a decent tackler, but often gets juked out of his shoes in the open field. That's the only knock I have on him.

sportscurmudgeon
01-03-2005, 01:50 PM
Sorry, I hit the wrong "button". Let me try this again.


hurrykaine:

Here are my grades per your listing:

Coaching staff: B- I agree with you here. This is a team that could have come apart at the seams with offense/devense finger pointing and it did not happen. That is what brings the grade up from C-/D+ which is what a 6-10 team has actually earned on the field.


Offense: Overall grade = D-. Look at the team record; look at where they rank in terms of scoring - the statistic that actually makes a difference when it comes to team record - and the Redskins offense this year is barely above abject failure.


Brunell F. He was worse than I could have imagined back in June.

Ramsey C-. He is improving and should get a higher grade next year. But he did not have a winning record in his starts this year with a top flight defense so I can't say that he is average or above just yet.

Portis C+. Had a few big games and a few where he was a non-factor. I do NOT like his whining and complaining at all and I don't like that he does not let his play on the field do his talking for him. And that business with welching on his deal with a teammate - at the time - bothers me too. He needs an attitude adjustment.

Betts B+ When he got a chance to do something, he contributed positively. I don't think he is nearly as talented as Portis but he may be a better fit for this offense than Portis. If that is so, then we have a $50M problem on our hands.

Offensive Line D-. Randy Thomas played hard and played smart and played hurt. He gets orchids for the year. The rest of them played substandard football and deserved to get onions instead of orchids. Losing Jansen was the biggest setback of the year.

Coles C+. Lots of catches but at a reduced yards per catch than in the past. ONE TD. Hello? Yes, he played hurt and yes, he played hard all year long and he deserves nothing but praise for that. But when your lead receiver gets into the end zone once for a season, that can't be something you call "above average".

Gardner D-. I think he's as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

Thrash C. Not nearly the physical talent of Coles or Gardner or maybe even Jacobs, but he gives you 100% on every play on offense and on special teams. He gets his average grade on hustle and effort.

Jacobs D. Talk about an invisible player... He has to be considered below the league average WR based on what he has produced ont he field in the last two years. Does he have potential? Sure. But at some point you have to say that his absence from the field MIGHT indicate that his potential is never going to be realized.

Cooley B. Good hands; good route running; good in the red zone. He's never going to be a Tony Gonzales as a deep threat from the TE position, but neither will a lot of good TEs in the NFL. He is better than average.

Royal C. This guy is average - - I guess. But he's certainly not any better than that.

Defense: A-. The only reason they do not get an A is that they did not score much (1 TD) and did not create turnovers when needed to get a short field for the offense so that a field goal - at a minimum - could go on the board in a tight game situation.

D-Line: B. They get this grade for effort and hustle and not for innate talent because I really don't think there is a lot of raw talent there. But as long as they keep playing hard and playing smart, that will be fine with me.

Linebackers: A- Pierce and Washington were very VERY good. Marshall was more than adequate. Take a breath here because this might be shocking. I thought the linebackers as a unit played BETTER with Arrington on the inactive list. Just an observation...

Springs A-. Played better than I thought he would. And he does not take plays off which is very good.

Smoot B+. Far better than average as a CB in the league, but Springs was the better CB on this team this year.

Walt Harris C. Did not play enough to get a grade above average. In fact, an average grade might be generous.

Safeties Overall grade = C. This is clearly the weakest part of the defense; it's not close.

Clark C. Probably played better than most people thought he would but then again no one thought he could play much at all before the season started. He is out of position a lot.

Taylor C. And I'm being very generous with that grade because I don't want anyone to think that I'm downgrading him for being a Meathead. Taylor cost the Skins the 2nd Dallas game; it was his mistake in coverage and his failure to do what he was supposed to do in his deep coverage resonsibilty that gave up the winning TD. He was the one who got beat twice on the final drive in the Cleveland game that led to the Browns' winning TD in the final minutes. He was the one who got beat at the 2 yardline by Greg Lewis in the Philly game and then missed the tackle on Dorsey Leavens on the next play to give Philly a TD which was the difference in the game. Even though it was meaningless yesterday, he gave up a "Hail Mary TD". He was the one who was there and did not make the play. HOw many of those Hail Mary's wind up as TDs per year in the NFL? Two? Maybe...

Special Teams D: Mediocre on coverage teams and mediocre on returns until about Week 15 when it ceased to matter. Punting by Tupa was good - and that is important because he certainly more than enough times when he had to do that. Place kicking (field goals and kickoffs) was well below average. Way too many kickoffs were fielded by the opponent outside the 15 yardline.

Chandler C. We did not see enough of him to give him a high grade. Remember, this is a guy who did not cut it with a team that was 2-14 for the year.

Hall D-. Yes, he was injured but when in there he was below average.

Kimrin: D- You can find a kicker of that quality hanging aorund every NFL camp in the summer and the only chance he has to make a team is for the real kicker to get hurt.


Remember, you asked...

BrudLee
01-03-2005, 02:19 PM
Curmudgeon -
When the highest grades on offense go to a rookie H-back, the backup RB, and the oft-injured right guard, the problem on offense should be evident.

I can agree with your Arrington-free assestment of the LBs. I hope LaVar realizes that he can't freelance every play when the guys next to him expect him to be elsewhere.

The reason the D gets an "A" in my book, despite your excellent point about scoring and takeaways, is that they got the yardage numbers they did without an effective ball control offense for most of the year. Imagine how they would be if we won the time of possession war?

hurrykaine
01-03-2005, 02:27 PM
offensive players should be ranked only by effort.

here is a different viewpoint.
Gwilliams comes to town and everyone accross the board on defence has career years(well the players that played). smoot,springs,washington,griffin and a couple of other veterens played at a probowl level.

young players like ryan clark, lamar marshall and pierce really did will with the exception of pierce who was flat out amazing. wynn looked good. noble looked good.

the point is, Gwilliams put the players in the position to play at their best. he got everything out of his players.

the flip side is Gibbs.
coles, gardner, portis(not that bad),brunell, samuels, and dockery all had the worst years of their careers.
gardner looked downright aweful at times, why didnt McCants, jacobs and/or thrash get playing time?

Gibbs didnt use portis to the best of his abilities.
all the routes were garbage. i cant believe we have a receiver with 80+ catches and doesnt have a 1000 yards...

redskins have one of the worst offences in the league with pretty good talent. gibbs gets an F.

willaims has some good talent,but some major holes. they are in my oppinon the best D in the league. williams gets an A+


so basicly its not fair to grade the offensive players except gardner and brunell. brunell was so terrible he couldnt even throw in a highschool offence.
gardner dropped too many balls thats not acceptible.

wait, you can also grade thrash for playing everywhere and doing it was class and maximum effort.

Interesting take on grading the offensive players within the framework of the coaching, playcalling, quarterbacking, etc. I guess my grades were based on what they did or didn't do (in my opinion) when they were handed or thrown the ball and how they blocked.

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