Portis for Larry Johnson

As for the second round pick, Michael Irvin actually said that if he was the Washington Redskins he would have made that deal any day of the week. When you really think about it, Champ wasn't coming back. No chance he was ever going to play another game as a Washington Redskin. So what did we really give up? A second round pick and a free agent we couldn't resign. I don't mind that at all.

I just can't let this go. Irvin? We are now quoting loud mouth Irvin? Portis is from Miami or as Irvin puts it "The U", so any opinion Irvin has about Portis or any other Miami player is pure propoganda for his boys. Most of what comes out of Irvins mouth is nothing but excriment in general...

I think player for player the trade proved to be a wash so far, but I thought it then and I still can't figure out for the life of me why we needed to add a second round pick to that trade. That's long over and done with now though...

By the way aren't shutdown corners supposed to be able to shut down WR's like Chad Johnson, Jerry Porter, and which ever Colts reciever that he will face this weekend!!!!

I am sorry but Champ is not a "true shutdown" corner. I am not sure if there is one in the NFL anymore. I mean dont get me wrong Champ is good but I dont think that he is that good!! Just my opinion!!

I like Michael Irvin

We got 99 problems but Clinton Portis ain't one

I happen to agree with djdunick's assesment of Portis

i'm on vacation in the caribbean but just have to step in here and defend my man Portis.

look at Portis's carries this year and tell me again he doesn't want to run. 3 ypc (ie TOUGH yards) with a leaky OLine and conservative (ie. predictable, some even say outdated) offense and he still wanted more touches. almost 1400 yds and he played hurt all year too. didn't you claim Rod Gardner was our offensive MVP this year?

Trade Portis? What? Didn't we just trade for him?

I'm one of those guys who's "crying" over the $10 million in dead cap space that we desperately need to re-sign guys like Smoot and Pierce. We don't need another $10 million in dead cap room.

i'm on vacation in the caribbean but just have to step in here and defend my man Portis. look at Portis's carries this year and tell me again he doesn't want to run. 3.3 ypc with a leaky OLine and conservative (ie. predictable, some even say outdated) offense and he still wanted more touches. almost 1400 yds and he played hurt all year too. didn't you claim Rod Gardner was our offensive MVP this year?


That was stated for the first half of the season and he was, if your going to quote me do it correctly, 3.3 yards in any offense is horrible, I am now through tap dancing around Portis, he's a bust, nothing more than a 3rd down change of pace back who accumulated most of his yard's in denver against a KC team that couldn't stop a cheerleader from having a 100yard day, Portis is a primadonna who want's to get through the line of scrimmage without being touched put a couple of good hit's on him and he backs down, Bett's hit's the holes with everything he has whether they are there or not, and yes behind the same pourous offensive line Bett's plowed through for a nice 100 yard game in his first start this season, Portis will be a better runner if we open more holes for him as if no other back would as well, Bett's get's yards when there is barley a running lane, Portis get's zip when there isn't a running lane, when our line reaches the point where they are opening holes big enough for Portis to run through we could have plenty of other back's moving the chain's for us as well, further more a back quite often has to take some shot's early to get his yard's later in the game Portis can't do that he can't take the punishment, the coaches all know who the better back is they just can't admit it because of the money that was given to Portis, why do think Portis was on the bench for the entire second half a few week's ago without an injury? Bottom line if Bett's ran in the denver system the last 2 year's and Portis ran in our's, Bett's would be looked at as an elite back and Portis would be our change of pace 3rd down back, as I said when we traded for him he can't run between the tackles and he proved it this year!

Is Tomlinson a buts?? I mean he had 1335 yards on 339 carries and 3.9 yards per carry avg.!!! Very simular stats to Portis!! Oh and did I mention that Tomlinson has ben in the same offensive system for more than 1 year??

Can you name a back who isnt a system back? Think about it when players get drafted the teams dont say "Hey I bet this guy could fit any system!!" NO! I dont think so, they draft players that will work in there system!! So tell me a Back that isnt a system back!! Who??

right, right, back then your argument was Rod Gardner was our offensive MVP but Brunell (who threw all the passes to him) had nothing to do with it. but i digress..

i just don't see how Portis could run 1500 yds in only TWO games a season versus KC. man, wish i saw those games!

and i think it's rich how tough you claim Betts to be when he played ONE whole game this season vs. a terrible run defense.

where was Betts before Portis? that's right, constantly INJURED and in the running to be cut this offseason due to relative fragility since he was drafted.

Betts is great when HEALTHY. i'm glad we have him. but Portis was productive even with all the problems at Oline, a 1980s playbook, AND lasted every game except one. withOUT the benefit of a passing game ALL YEAR. but i guess i'll wait to hear you pin our terrible passing game on Portis's light weight as well..

right, right, back then your argument was Rod Gardner was our offensive MVP but Brunell (who threw all the passes to him) had nothing to do with it. but i digress..

i just don't see how Portis could run 1500 yds in only TWO games a season versus KC. man, wish i saw those games!

and i think it's rich how tough you claim Betts to be when he played ONE whole game this season vs. a terrible run defense.

where was Betts before Portis? that's right, constantly INJURED and in the running to be cut this offseason due to relative fragility since he was drafted.

Betts is great when HEALTHY. i'm glad we have him. but Portis was productive even with all the problems at Oline, a 1980s playbook, AND lasted every game except one. withOUT the benefit of a passing game ALL YEAR. but i guess i'll wait to hear you pin our terrible passing game on Portis's light weight as well..


Where was Portis the final game? Hurt? It's much easier to stay healthy when you tap dance into the hole, the difference between you and I is you hang your hat on stat's, I rely on the abilty to evaluate a player's talent and what he does under certain circumstances, circumstances can dictate stat's, you keep harping on a lowsey O-line tell me what has Corey Dillon done the last 7 year's in cinnci. with that vaunted bengal O-line blocking for him? How about Deuce in new orlean's? And the biggest slap in the face of all Tiki in NY, he run's behind maybe the worse offensive line in the league he's a small guy like Portis and he now hold's the giant's all time single season rushing record and did a lot of that with a rookie QB running the offense, yea he averaged 4.7 yards a carry, so keep with the excuses and the spewing stat's for Portis that's what typical uninformed fan's do, anyone can hang their hat on a stat, breaking down a player's talent, or a game, and understanding what dictates those stat's is where the real football smart's lies. Portis's STATS, he averaged 5.5 yards a carry in denver, he averaged 3.8 for us almost 2 yards a carry less, 2 YARDS! While bett's averaged 4.1 behind the same line.


Portis's stat's against KC in 2003 349 yds and 6 td's in 2 games. That's 1 more TD in 2 games than he scored for us all year!