Where does D. Hall rate as a CB for the Redskins all time?

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SFREDSKIN
08-27-2011, 07:26 PM
REDSKINS TOP 5 DEFENSIVE BACKS OF ALL TIME.wmv - YouTube

KLHJ2
08-27-2011, 07:34 PM
I like D Hall, but I would not consider him an all time great. I like what he brings to the table for sure. If we had his playmaking ability combined with the coverage skills of Carlos Rogers, then we would be talking "great".

As it stands now I would rather have the guy who takes chances, picks the ball off and sometimes give up the big play rather than someone who rarely allows a catch, but rarely gets a turnover.

I love the fact that he can swing the momentum in a game, but I don't think that he would be on my "ALL REDSKINS" squad considering the other talented CB's that we have had in our rich history. He may make the team based on his returning ability.

GTripp0012
08-27-2011, 07:35 PM
Pro-football-reference.com ranks him 34th among defensive backs in Redskins History by approximate value. They do not separate by corners and safeties. AV does not consider seasons before 1950. Sorry, old timers.

Washington Redskins Career Approximate Value Register - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/was/career-av.htm)

They rank him ahead of recent players like Ryan Clark, Reed Doughty, Deion Sanders, Walt Harris, and Matt Bowen. So, basically, he's a more accomplished Redskin than those guys.

budw38
08-27-2011, 07:36 PM
Green , Pat Fisher , Springs , Bailey . L. Parrish , Joe Lavender and Garo Yaprimian's favorite .... Mike Bass .

SFREDSKIN
08-27-2011, 07:37 PM
I guess I don't understand the strong emotional connection between Joe Fan and DeAngelo Hall. If Kedric Golston, a Redskin of five years and his entire football career gets cut, no one cries a single tear for him. If hooskins, 53 fan, or SlinginSammy33 expresses displeasure with a play Hall made, it's because he took their lunch money.

There is a deep emotional connection between many people who root for the Redskins and Hall. I don't have an emotional tie to Hall, or really any other current player beyond what they do for us on Sundays. And that makes this vocal minority very, very different.

The funny thing is Hall is more beloved than Riggins and Theismann on this board, guys that won SB's.

12thMan
08-27-2011, 07:41 PM
Green , Pat Fisher , Springs , Bailey . L. Parrish , Joe Lavender and Garo Yaprimian's favorite .... Mike Bass .

Very good list. I would definitely slip Hall in Springs place though.

Green
Bailey
L.Parrish
J.Lavender
D.Hall

budw38
08-27-2011, 07:45 PM
Very good list. I would definitely slip Hall in Springs place though.

Green
Bailey
L.Parrish
J.Lavender
D.Hall
I just wish we had 2/ 3 of them in there primes for the next 10 years !

GTripp0012
08-27-2011, 08:00 PM
The funny thing is Hall is more beloved than Riggins and Theismann on this board, guys that won SB's.Well, I get that one, it's because Hall is a current player in the internet age, and Riggins and Theismann haven't played for the Redskins in 25 years.

I don't get why Hall is more beloved than London Fletcher though. That one confuses me. I'd guess the local connection, but still, it boggles the mind beyond that.

Is there a Fletcher detractor section of fan base? Like, guys who just wish the team would move on from aging no. 59? Fletcher and Moss are universally beloved players. I think the general consensus is that DHall belongs amongst this category. And that the natural reaction to someone saying "wait a second, Fletcher and Moss have had way better Redskins careers than Hall," is to simply pout and cry foul.

Bucket
08-27-2011, 08:03 PM
Well, I get that one, it's because Hall is a current player in the internet age, and Riggins and Theismann haven't played for the Redskins in 25 years.

I don't get why Hall is more beloved than London Fletcher though. That one confuses me. I'd guess the local connection, but still, it boggles the mind beyond that.

Is there a Fletcher detractor section of fan base? Like, guys who just wish the team would move on from aging no. 59? Fletcher and Moss are universally beloved players. I think the general consensus is that DHall belongs amongst this category. And that the natural reaction to someone saying "wait a second, Fletcher and Moss have had way better Redskins careers than Hall," is to simply pout and cry foul.

Because I would put D. Halls career with the Redskins right up there with Moss, and Fletcher.

You really cant compare the 3 though since it's all different positions though

mooby
08-27-2011, 08:13 PM
I like Hall, and I like the picks and fumbles he brings to the table, but he doesn't rank amongst the best in all of Redskins history. I wish we had a really old time presence at this table, someone who could tell us what Dan Sandifer brought to the table because any guy that had 13 picks in a season had to be good, and he also is in a first place tie for picks in a game with 4 as well.

In order to be ranked amongst the best, you need to qualify in several areas. Longevity, health issues, and most importantly, play on the field. I'm forgetting some here, but I think those are the main ones. D.Hall has local ties being from VT obviously, so I'm sure that counts in his favor, but he hasn't been here that long in the grand scheme of things, and he's very inconsistent with his play on the field.

Like I said, I love the fact that he consistently produces turnovers for us, although not as much as say an Ed Reed, Polamalu, or Asante Samuel brings to the table. But he still consistently gives up big plays, as much, if not more, than the turnovers he produces. That's why he doesn't make my list, because his impact on the team is neutralized when you factor in the plays he makes versus the plays he gives up. I don't have a hate boner for the guy like Gtripp does, but let's be serious. I think it worked with him and Rogers because Rogers was a steady presence at the other corner spot. He didn't give up a lot of big plays but he didn't make a lot of big plays either. Now with uncertainty at the other corner spot his mistakes are being magnified. And yes we overpaid for him, he's not worth big money. I think we'll go out and probably seek another upgrade at corner next season.

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