Where does D. Hall rate as a CB for the Redskins all time?

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GTripp0012
08-29-2011, 04:38 PM
So it seems like you're laying our low defensive ranking squarely at the feet of Deangelo Hall. If that's the argument you're mounting, I'd be interested in hearing how you arrive at that conclusion.The 31st total ranking is entirely based on total yards against. DeAngelo Hall gives up more yards against than any other corner. The correlation between the Redskins hemmorhaging yards and Hall's performance is a perfect one.

No one thinks Hall is the only problem, that's just you twisting the argument I'm making. But no one player is responsible for lowing his teams defensive ranking than DeAngelo Hall, at least according to game charting numbers. Lets stick only to the facts and leave emotions out of it.

Remember, the NFL yards rankings dont include INTs or touchdowns, so if you think those are valuable things then Hall simply doesn't play on the second worst defense in the league. His teammates have their issues, but they're much better than bucket is giving them credit for.

GTripp0012
08-29-2011, 04:39 PM
How many times are WR's or QB's not at fault during a INT? See? You're arguement is totally biased on the fact that all your negative approach toward D. Hall is based on your OWN belief that he's not a good CB for the Redskins.

In that total yardage allowed by Hall.. How many times did Moore, or Doughty/Horton blow coverage and not help over the top? How many times did the QB have more then 3 seconds to throw, or were we in Zone coverage? Blitz?

It's all biased statistical information and not even halfway accurate to what D. Hall actually does on the field. He produces plays..

2 defensive TD's, Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl MVP, 16 pass deflection, 6 INT's, and 95 tackles. All on the 31st ranked defense in the NFL

Sorry but there is not much more to argue about that.LOL at pro bowl MVP. Quit with the biased crap. Stick to facts.

Bucket
08-29-2011, 04:40 PM
Do it. I dare you.

Revis and Nnamdi were not part of the 31st ranked defense at least in small part because they weren't playing across from DeAngelo Hall. Carlos Rogers had no such luck.

Alexander
Rocky
Moore
Doughty
Carter
Albert

I can make 100 reasons why more of the issue was in this area to our 31st ranked defense more then D. Hall.

You're being totally biased lol, I gtg to work.. Ill lawl at your "facts' later

12thMan
08-29-2011, 04:42 PM
LOL at pro bowl MVP. Quit with the biased crap. Stick to facts.

But see you laugh at the facts and stats Bucket produced, while at the same time holding up your own "facts" and stats to prove otherwise.

Is the real argument you're right and we're wrong?

GTripp0012
08-29-2011, 04:44 PM
Alexander
Rocky
Moore
Doughty
Carter
Albert

I can make 100 reasons why more of the issue was in this area to our 31st ranked defense more then D. Hall.

You're being totally biased lol, I gtg to work.. Ill lawl at your "facts' laterKyle Wilson
Jason Taylor
Eric Smith
Dwight Lowery
Vernon Gholston

Jets are a top five ranked defense by yards.

Lotus
08-29-2011, 04:45 PM
DHall is the new Jason Campbell. JC was so middle-of-the-road that lovers found plenty to love, haters found plenty to hate, and therefore endless arguments resulted. For different reasons, of course, DHall polarizes the fan base in just the same way.

GTripp0012
08-29-2011, 04:46 PM
But see you laugh at the facts and stats Bucket produced, while at the same time holding up your own "facts" and stats to prove otherwise.

Is the real argument you're right and we're wrong?What in the heck did bucket produce?? How is that any way comparable to what I did. It's disrespectful to me that you'd consider that similar. He's talking about individual honors bestowed upon a player while I'm talking about on-field performance. Things that happen during games.

Which matters more? This is not a trick question.

12thMan
08-29-2011, 04:50 PM
DHall is the new Jason Campbell. JC was so middle-of-the-road that lovers found plenty to love, haters found plenty to hate, and therefore endless arguments resulted. For different reasons, of course, DHall polarizes the fan base in just the same way.

In some sense I even take exception to that comparison for many reasons. But namely I can't remember one game where Jason Campbell put the team on his back and single-handedly drove the team to victory or he was the deciding factor in a victorious outcome. I think it's safe to say, D.Hall has produced a few of those games in his short time as a Redskin.

But I'm done with this thread and this argument. I'm starting to sound like D.Hall is the second coming of Christ and that's not the position I'm taking at all.

Chico23231
08-29-2011, 04:52 PM
Do it. I dare you.

Revis and Nnamdi were not part of the 31st ranked defense at least in small part because they weren't playing across from DeAngelo Hall. Carlos Rogers had no such luck.

CB play was the least responsible area for that entire unit's 31st ranking. Saftey, LB and a league worst DL far more responsible for that ranking. Maybe if Fat Alberta woulda acted like a man maybe the DL woulda been better.

GTripp0012
08-29-2011, 04:52 PM
But I'm done with this thread and this argument. I'm starting to sound like D.Hall is the second coming of Christ and that's not the position I'm taking at all.12th, I have great respect for you for doing this. Even though we disagree, you've proven to be the "bigger" man.

I'll be back in this thread before long, ttyl.

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