Bucket
08-27-2011, 01:24 PM
I don't agree. I think Hall is a great tackler, and he forces a lot of fumbles going for the ball in certain situations. He basically won the game for us against Dallas, and Chicago last year.
How many CB's can say that?
53Fan
08-27-2011, 01:41 PM
I've watch D. Hall since HS and a great tackler he's not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE7ZBTvrtIA&feature=player_detailpage
Slingin Sammy 33
08-27-2011, 01:42 PM
Yeah, I hate to sound cliche but it is preseason and that shit's just going to happen. At the end of the day, save three or four corners in the entire NFL, give me D.Hall any day of the week.I'd take these before Hall, any day of the week and twice on Sunday:
Nnamdi, Woodson, Revis, McCourty, A. Samuel, DRC, T. Newman, Jammer, Grimes (ATL), P. Peterson, Trufant, Champ, B. Flowers, Finnegan, R. Mathis, Taylor & McFadden (PIT), Haden,
Probably would take V. Davis, C. Rogers (yes, I said it). and a few others too.
Hall isn't a "shut-down" corner. Hall makes plays, but gives up a ton of plays that more solid CBs don't give up.
Longtimefan
08-27-2011, 01:43 PM
Keim's analysis is always really good -- got to clean up those penalties and the point about Gruden also raving about Beck is an interesting turn of events.
Yeah! I think John Keim is one of the best in the area. His comments on the scoring drive before halftime led by Grossman makes you wish he could be remotely close to that type consistency on a regular basis, if he could then perhaps his reputation wouldn't suffer the hits it has over the years.
The discouraging thing about Rex is that he cannot seem to correct the wrongs about his game...what you've seen in the past is what you'll continue to see in the future.
Slingin Sammy 33
08-27-2011, 01:48 PM
I don't agree. I think Hall is a great tackler, and he forces a lot of fumbles going for the ball in certain situations. He basically won the game for us against Dallas, and Chicago last year.
How many CB's can say that?Hall is a sub-par tackler at best, piss-poor at worst. Remember the "Delhomme" incident
EDIT: see 53Fan's post
That wasn't Vick, V. Young, Big Ben, Steve Young......it was JAKE DELHOMME.
NYCskinfan82
08-27-2011, 01:55 PM
Please remember everyone get beat/drops a pass/fumbles/commits a foul everyonce and awhile.
Ruhskins
08-27-2011, 01:59 PM
Hall is a sub-par tackler at best, piss-poor at worst. Remember the "Delhomme" incident
EDIT: see 53Fan's post
That wasn't Vick, V. Young, Big Ben, Steve Young......it was JAKE DELHOMME.
That was one situation. It's like me saying that Cofield is weak b/c Ricky Williams knocked him down at the Ravens game. I do think is a bit ridiculous to call him a great tackler, but I wouldn't sub-par either. In 2010 he had 95 tackles, that was 3rd in the team behind London and Rocky.
Ruhskins
08-27-2011, 02:02 PM
Please remember everyone get beat/drops a pass/fumbles/commits a foul everyonce and awhile.
You would think people would keep this in mind, but not with a guy like Hall. People will bitch about him no matter what.
Bucket
08-27-2011, 02:03 PM
You guys pull out one incident on a guy and that automatically makes him a poor tackler?
That's like saying Sean Taylor was a poor tackler because he got run over and stepped on from that Wilson guy from WVU? Who didn't even get drafted by any team or make it past college.
Merriman is a bad pass rusher because he got stone walled by Jones-Drew
Flacco is a bad QB because he threw 4 INT's in his first game last year?
You can't label someone something because of one incident, that's totally ludicrous. Hall tackles well for a cornerback and he is what he is. He'll give up plays trying to make big ones, but most of the time he makes more plays then he gives up. He was 3rd ont he team in tackles last year with almost 100 tackles.
That Guy
08-27-2011, 02:05 PM
its not one incident with D Hall, though feel free to scour the youtube for highlights of his awesome tackling.
I'm with SS33 on this, he speaks 100% truth here ;) I agree with his description and his CB wishlist.