skinsfaninok
10-18-2011, 04:07 PM
All he has to do is not give the ball away a couple of times per game and he will be a big improvement over Rex.
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skinsfaninok 10-18-2011, 04:07 PM All he has to do is not give the ball away a couple of times per game and he will be a big improvement over Rex. This Giantone 10-18-2011, 05:50 PM and..... the others have not? Brady- 151 games, 111 INT's. Brees- 144 games, 140 INT's. EManning- 111 games, 118 INT's. Stafford- 19 games, 25 INT's. Roethlisberger- 105 games, 92 INT's. Vick- 104 games, 66 INT's. Grossman- 46 games, 49 INT's. I'm soo glad EManning and Stafford suck just as much as Grossman. I wonder when those respected teams will start chanting for the 2nd stringer. I agree Eli is not Brady,Brees or even his brother but anyone that thinks he and Rex are equal....needs their head examine. skinsfaninok 10-18-2011, 05:52 PM I agree Eli is not Brady,Brees or even his brother but anyone that thinks he and Rex are equal....needs their head examine. Thank u Bucket 10-18-2011, 06:33 PM How do we know Beck wont be better, or even good? He hasn't even played a game and as far as rookies are concerned. If you treat Beck like a Rookie QB at the moment then his appearance the other day wasn't that bad. You don't know what you will get out of Beck till he plays. Many QB's have sat on the Bench only to come in the game and prove they can play in the NFL. 44ever 10-18-2011, 06:44 PM How do we know Beck wont be better, or even good? He hasn't even played a game and as far as rookies are concerned. If you treat Beck like a Rookie QB at the moment then his appearance the other day wasn't that bad. You don't know what you will get out of Beck till he plays. Many QB's have sat on the Bench only to come in the game and prove they can play in the NFL. Agree 100% I dont understand all the talk about how you get the same results with Rex or Beck. I'm personally intrigued by the idea of seeing what Beck can do if given the start. They are not the same type of QB they cannot be categorized "the same" nor will they statistically produce the same results. I really hope Beck does get a chance and lights it up! skinsfaninok 10-18-2011, 06:58 PM How do we know Beck wont be better, or even good? He hasn't even played a game and as far as rookies are concerned. If you treat Beck like a Rookie QB at the moment then his appearance the other day wasn't that bad. You don't know what you will get out of Beck till he plays. Many QB's have sat on the Bench only to come in the game and prove they can play in the NFL. Trent Green, Tony Romo and others would argue for Beck Defensewins 10-18-2011, 07:31 PM How do we know Beck wont be better, or even good? He hasn't even played a game and as far as rookies are concerned. If you treat Beck like a Rookie QB at the moment then his appearance the other day wasn't that bad. You don't know what you will get out of Beck till he plays. Many QB's have sat on the Bench only to come in the game and prove they can play in the NFL. I agree. Frankly I am tired of all the (I think I am an expert on QB's) on this sight that make predictions about Qb's that have barely taken and NFL snap. Cam Newton is the most obvious person to point to. All effing off season I had to endure listening to some idiots talking about how they were 100% sure Cam Newton will be terrible in the NFL. Failure. Before that. some of those 'experts' were saying Jimmy Clausen was going to be the best pro in his draft class and he was the most pro ready Qb coming out that year. He is now third string behind rookie Cam Newton. Beck is also unknown. He started a few games for a terrible Dolphins team. Lets give him a look. That is all I ask. GTripp0012 10-18-2011, 07:46 PM I agree. Frankly I am tired of all the (I think I am an expert on QB's) on this sight that make predictions about Qb's that have barely taken and NFL snap. Cam Newton is the most obvious person to point to. All effing off season I had to endure listening to some idiots talking about how they were 100% sure Cam Newton will be terrible in the NFL. Failure. Before that. some of those 'experts' were saying Jimmy Clausen was going to be the best pro in his draft class and he was the most pro ready Qb coming out that year. He is now third string behind rookie Cam Newton. Beck is also unknown. He started a few games for a terrible Dolphins team. Lets give him a look. That is all I ask.You're going to have to explain the John Beck's unknown = Cam Newton's unknown a little bit further. It seems to break down once you move past "I'm enraged with that thing people thought." There's a decade of age difference there. Defensewins 10-18-2011, 07:48 PM You're going to have to explain the John Beck's unknown = Cam Newton's unknown a little bit further. It seems to break down once you move past "I'm enraged with that thing people thought." There's a decade of age difference there. How many games has Beck started? Haw many has Cam started? I don't care how old a player is, if they have not played extensively like Grossman, we do not know how they will do until they get in there and play more. GTripp0012 10-18-2011, 07:53 PM How many games has Beck started? Haw many has Cam started?In college, a bunch. I don't really see the perspective you're selling me. You're trying to link Grossman-Beck with Clausen-Newton. But how many games has Clausen started? How about Grossman? We don't really know anything about Clausen compared to Grossman. But we knew Cam Newton was the first overall pick and was going to get a shot. All we know about John Beck is that his teammates don't think he's that good and he lost a QB competition to Rex Grossman. Maybe you're right that he deserves a shot to fail, but that's not exactly the same thing with Cam Newton. People doubted Cam Newton's ability to play in the NFL. But no one thought the Panthers should just play him to get it over with. But, yet, that's the argument for Beck. |
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