Trades of the Shanahan era

the lower the dollar figure, the safer the trade.
we didn't do any insane contracts this year... maybe bowen or cofield were slightly overpaid, but that's a helluva lot better than sinking $100mill into a complete bum.

the draft picks basically play for free and our vet signings/trades (jabar, donte, fox, etc) add a lot of top-53 value and are almost free too (well, our top-22 was really weak last year, so a lot of improvement has happened there too).

I mean, joey galloway would be, at best, the 8th best WR on this team. larry johnson might be the 6th best running back if he were here now.

that's improvement.

The next big value trade?????

Trade-or-release talk surfaces for Tebow | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/22/trade-or-release-talk-surfaces-for-tebow/)

Earlier from Redskins Insider:

"I like everything about him," Shanahan said. "If you can't root for a guy like Tebow, man, you don't like your [own] kids."


"I just think he's something that's very special," he added.



Redskins Insider - Mike Shanahan on Tim Tebow: 'He's something that's very special' (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/mike-shanahan/mike-shanahan-on-tim-tebow-hes.html)




Bro. Shanny likes blowing smoke up people's asses, but let me quote you what his son (and most likely he) actually think.


NFL scouts scrutinizing former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow - St. Petersburg Times (http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/nfl-scouts-scrutinizing-former-florida-quarterback-tim-tebow/1068154)

"If you draft him thinking you're going to correct (the flaws), then you're wrong," said Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, a former Bucs assistant. "I think it's going to be just as much up to him as the team that takes him. … If he's better at one thing than another, then you better figure out how to work that into your offense.

"If you draft him and think you're going to do what you've been doing all along, you're probably going to be getting him ready for the next coach who's going to replace you."


So we know that's a no-go on Tebow.

Sorry to ruin your thread BHA....

The trades, draft picks, contracts and type of players we've gone after have been my favorite thing of the Allen/Shanny tenure, for the most part. I think when you talk about trades you cant forget to leave out McNabb. Overall ive never been happier with the administrative side of whats going on in the organization. Its only been a year and a half but it seems to be the new mantra around here and hopefully it continues.

Not only are trades usually going our way now, but contracts are much more reasonable, this past draft was excellent, and all of a sudden we seem to have youth and depth everywhere. What a refreshing change from the past 10 years or so.

Trades that look good during the exhibition season sometimes work out and sometimes do not. That is reality...

Yes, some of the trades look good so far but let us not get too carried away with the analysis just yet.

1. The John Beck for Doug Dutch trade MIGHT be akin to a bank heist - - IF John Beck really is the Skins' starting QB AND IF in that role as the starting QB he produces a winning record. If Beck is the starter and the team is 4-12, maybe that wasn't such a great trade. If Beck carries a clipboard for 15 games this year, this is not a great trade but it would be "advantage Skins". Wait a bit on this one...


2. Jamaal Brown was hardly a difference maker last year playing on a horrible offensive line. Wait to see how he plays this year. If he is a serviceable OT, then the Skins got the better of that deal unless Martez Wilson somehow morphs into the second coming of Lawrence Taylor. (Highly unlikely...)


3. Jabar Gaffney for Jeramy Jarmon? Ho-hum...


4. Tim Hightower for Vonnie Holliday was a GREAT trade for the Skins. I said on another thread that Hightower has the potential - - barring injury - - to be the best Redskins' RB since John Riggins and I continue to believe that.


5. Kerrigan has looked OK so far but still has a lot to show in order to be a difference maker. I did not like Gabbert coming out of college so of course I think the trade is a good one right now - - assuming that Gabbert is a flop. But assuming he will be a flop based on the evidence to date is no more rational than thinking John Beck will be a star QB based on the evidence to date. Time to sit back and wait to make a final judgment.


6. Helu looks like an NFL player so far. Hankerson looks like a guy with good college stats who has not yet grasped what it means to play on Sundays. Projecting both as important cogs in the Skins' offense for years to come is premature.


7. Best trade of all was Haynesworth for a 5th round pick. That was like taking your garbage bag back to the super market and having them give you a bag of pretzels and a six pack in return...

Ho-hum on Gaffney? We traded a guy that wasn't going to make our team anyway and got a solid #2 WR in return. I think that move had win written all over it.

Ho-hum on Gaffney? We traded a guy that wasn't going to make our team anyway and got a solid #2 WR in return. I think that move had win written all over it.

If Gaffney is a threat as a WR here, the Skins probably got the best of the deal - - assuming Jarmon does not light it up in Denver. However, Gaffney has been around for a long time without ever being more than just a guy at WR.

I'd love to be in the position of underestimating him...

If Gaffney is a threat as a WR here, the Skins probably got the best of the deal - - assuming Jarmon does not light it up in Denver. However, Gaffney has been around for a long time without ever being more than just a guy at WR.

I'd love to be in the position of underestimating him...

I'd call him a little more than just a guy, especially the past 2 seasons... he's caught 119 balls for 1607 yards. Pretty solid #2 numbers.

I'd call him a little more than just a guy, especially the past 2 seasons... he's caught 119 balls for 1607 yards. Pretty solid #2 numbers.

If Gaffney ends up being our #2 guy (which he almost certainly will be), it is still a good trade b/c Jarmon had done nothing and really struggled in the 3-4

I would expect Tebow to enjoy a Campbell-like career path. Their winning SEC resumes were similar, and they're both more accurate than anyone gives them credit for. But play within the pocket is...an adventure every time.

I like Tebow as a pro player. But I think all the talk about needing to make him play differently than he currently does hurts his biggest asset: his youth. He's probably the third best QB on the Broncos right now, but the difference between one and three just isn't that much. Tebow should be playing.

I was going to jokingly remind you that I've said a couple of times this spring that Adam Weber is not someone to sleep on...but then I decided not to...and then I saw this

Project Tebow: Savior's wings get clipped - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_denver_broncos_quarterbacks_082311)