Trades of the Shanahan era

honestly I'd take Tebow for a 4th

What would you do with him? (I'd ask GMScud...but this is a family friendly site)

What would you do with him? (I'd ask GMScud...but this is a family friendly site)

Well, we are thin at the tight end position...

Not even a 5th rounder. We just swapped picks if I remember correctly.

You are correct, making that trade even sweeter.

As crazy as that sounds, I'd take Tebow for a fourth too. It'd be akin to a Jason Campbell for Tim Tebow trade, and nobody would be able to convince me that JC would ever have more potential than Tebow does. Still though I think that'd be highly unlikely to happen, mainly because I doubt they'd give up Tebow for a fourth. But if Shanny liked him I could easily see us inquiring about his availability.I would expect Tebow to enjoy a Campbell-like career path. Their winning SEC resumes were similar, and they're both more accurate than anyone gives them credit for. But play within the pocket is...an adventure every time.

I like Tebow as a pro player. But I think all the talk about needing to make him play differently than he currently does hurts his biggest asset: his youth. He's probably the third best QB on the Broncos right now, but the difference between one and three just isn't that much. Tebow should be playing.

I would expect Tebow to enjoy a Campbell-like career path. Their winning SEC resumes were similar, and they're both more accurate than anyone gives them credit for. But play within the pocket is...an adventure every time.

I like Tebow as a pro player. But I think all the talk about needing to make him play differently than he currently does hurts his biggest asset: his youth. He's probably the third best QB on the Broncos right now, but the difference between one and three just isn't that much. Tebow should be playing.

Passing wise I think Tebow has plenty to improve on, but you can't discount the ability to improvise and be an asset in the run game as well. Tebow is head and shoulders above JC in that department. I tend to think with the right coaching and scheme in place Tebow would have a much higher ceiling than Campbell. And Tebow does have that playmaker factor going for him.

He just has the ability to make things happen, and I don't think that's something that can be coached. Like I said with coaching Tebow could be dangerous. With Campbell, I can see him being an effective game manager in the right scheme with the right coaching, but I don't think he is a playmaker in the Tebow mold. Either way, there's a lot of intangibles that have to fall in place to make a great quarterback, so for the present we'll just have to see if things shake out in Tebow's favor for the future.

Passing wise I think Tebow has plenty to improve on, but you can't discount the ability to improvise and be an asset in the run game as well. Tebow is head and shoulders above JC in that department. I tend to think with the right coaching and scheme in place Tebow would have a much higher ceiling than Campbell. And Tebow does have that playmaker factor going for him.

He just has the ability to make things happen, and I don't think that's something that can be coached. Like I said with coaching Tebow could be dangerous. With Campbell, I can see him being an effective game manager in the right scheme with the right coaching, but I don't think he is a playmaker in the Tebow mold. Either way, there's a lot of intangibles that have to fall in place to make a great quarterback, so for the present we'll just have to see if things shake out in Tebow's favor for the future.Everything you've said is true, and it's true because he's young. But time on the bench re-working his mechanics isn't going to make him younger.

I don't think Tebow profiles as an NFL "playmaker". He doesn't have the improvisational skills to create things. But his running definitely adds value that you can't get with, say, Kyle Orton. Or John Beck.

Offensive coaches are driven nuts by scrambling quarterbacks though, so Tebow will always be fighting the same uphill battle for playing time that Tony Romo and Vince Young have had. Even relative success wont keep his employers happy.

I would expect Tebow to enjoy a Campbell-like career path. Their winning SEC resumes were similar, and they're both more accurate than anyone gives them credit for. But play within the pocket is...an adventure every time.

I like Tebow as a pro player. But I think all the talk about needing to make him play differently than he currently does hurts his biggest asset: his youth. He's probably the third best QB on the Broncos right now, but the difference between one and three just isn't that much. Tebow should be playing.

No kidding. Especially for that team. They're not reasonably a threat this year with any of those three at QB. Might as well throw him into the fire and see what happens. I don't get it. Dummies for getting themselves into a situation where they HAVE to play Orton even though it really gives them no tangible benefit other than possibly winning an extra game or three.
"Congrats! By playing your 'best' QB you've won an extra 2 games to raise your record to 7-9 and miss the playoffs anyways. No worries though..you only dropped your draft position by 7." Play Tebow make him prove he can or can't play. Or better yet...fix your offense to use him in a way that might be successful.

Everything you've said is true, and it's true because he's young. But time on the bench re-working his mechanics isn't going to make him younger.

I don't think Tebow profiles as an NFL "playmaker". He doesn't have the improvisational skills to create things. But his running definitely adds value that you can't get with, say, Kyle Orton. Or John Beck.

Offensive coaches are driven nuts by scrambling quarterbacks though, so Tebow will always be fighting the same uphill battle for playing time that Tony Romo and Vince Young have had. Even relative success wont keep his employers happy.

Beck isn't a half bad scrambler.

Everything you've said is true, and it's true because he's young. But time on the bench re-working his mechanics isn't going to make him younger.

I don't think Tebow profiles as an NFL "playmaker". He doesn't have the improvisational skills to create things. But his running definitely adds value that you can't get with, say, Kyle Orton. Or John Beck.

Offensive coaches are driven nuts by scrambling quarterbacks though, so Tebow will always be fighting the same uphill battle for playing time that Tony Romo and Vince Young have had. Even relative success wont keep his employers happy.

Got that right. I'm also curious to see how Tebow looks in practice. I tend to think there might be some truth that he plays much better than he practices, but if he doesn't practice good he's gonna have a hard enough time convincing the coaches he should play.

As for that playmaker comment, I should clarify. I don't think he's a playmaker in the Daunte Culpepper or McNabb in his prime mode, as his passing game is definitely not on the level that theirs' were, but he has that extra dimension with his feet, and he can definitely make things happen in that regard. But he's not going to be able to lean on that to succeed in the NFL though, because this is a pass first league, and the games that he will be able to win solely through his ground success will be far and few between.

I think he's just stuck in a bad spot right now, and I don't see him succeeding in Denver. He's stuck with a coach that never made an investment in him, and clearly doesn't feel like he's the clear cut best option that'll win games for him, so it looks like he's going to be stuck on the bench for the foreseeable future, unless of course someone gives them a trade offer they can't refuse (doubtful, unless they're willing to take a low round draft pick).

Beck isn't a half bad scrambler.Well, I should clarify. I was specifically talking about players who can turn the corner on an NFL linebacker if it's the difference between 4th and 3 and a 1st and 10. The pool of QBs who can run up the middle through open space after completing a progression is much, much bigger than the group I was lumping Tebow in.