Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins vs. Colts)

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SmootSmack
08-22-2011, 01:34 PM
I can't imagine Beck not starting on Thursday

NC_Skins
08-22-2011, 02:32 PM
Since we all agree Beck is not a pro-bowl QB,

Speak for yourself when you say "we". I on the other hand have no idea if Beck is going to be Pro-bowler or a Toilet Bowler. We don't have enough evidence to make a distinction either way at this point in time.

NYCskinfan82
08-22-2011, 02:35 PM
Speak for yourself when you say "we". I on the other hand have no idea if Beck is going to be Pro-bowler or a Toilet Bowler. We don't have enough evidence to make a distinction either way at this point in time.

I was trying to make a point but in your case never mind. :argue:

Hog1
08-22-2011, 02:36 PM
Speak for yourself when you say "we". I on the other hand have no idea if Beck is going to be Pro-bowler or a Toilet Bowler. We don't have enough evidence to make a distinction either way at this point in time.
Totally....looks good so far..........but more evidence is required.

NC_Skins
08-22-2011, 02:56 PM
I was trying to make a point but in your case never mind. :argue:


Sorry. :(

NLC1054
08-22-2011, 03:14 PM
But we didn't have much of a vertical dimension to the offense against the Steelers, either. If memory serves the longest completion was a catch-and-run and generally shots were not taken down the field. Maybe this problem is an artifact of circumstance. But if we don't take occasional shots, over 16 games safeties will cheat towards the line and the running game will suffer thereby.

Deep passes are traditionally low percentage passes, so you want to take those shots when the have a higher probability of being completed. The Colts defended the deep pass all night, rushing for and dropping seven into coverage on nearly every down. There was no opportunity to pass deep, so you're likely looking at an incompletion, or even suckier, a turnover. Then we'd all be sitting here talking about Beck's decision making.

I mean, you have to look at Houston's offense as the way we do things, since it's essentially the same offense. Matt Schaub doesn't stretch the field a lot. He's highly efficient in the short to intermediate route, and they now have a strong running game. But if you do cheat and put a safety in the box, Schaub will have no problem throwing one deep-ish to get you to back off.

It's only one preseason game, and I think it's kind of foolish to think our "gameplan" for the Colts game will be our gameplan all the time. I guarantee the Ravens will cheat a safety in the box to stop the run and force Beck to pass. I expect him to at least be able to show that, yes, he can throw the deep ball, to get them to back off.

MTK
08-22-2011, 03:15 PM
Didn't DM lead the league (or very close to it) in completed deep passes last year? How'd that work out for us?

Lotus
08-22-2011, 03:26 PM
I wasn't talking about going deep all the time. Of course deep throws are low percentage. I believe I used the adjective "occasional."

I simply alluded to the fact that taking an occasional shot keeps the defense honest. We haven't really done that yet this year. And such shots can be taken safely, without much fear of a turnover. Many teams do this.

A lack of taking shots is only problematic if it is chronic. We haven't yet had a chance to see if it is chronic. But we haven't taken shots in the first two games - that is all that I was saying.

MTK
08-22-2011, 03:31 PM
Perhaps we just don't have enough of a sample size yet to make any accurate determinations regarding the deep game, or lack of one.

We haven't had many problems moving the ball so far, I'll take that over the all or nothing offense we mostly had last year.

freddyg12
08-22-2011, 03:33 PM
I'm curious to see Beck play in general (missed Friday), but especially so to see him throw deep. There have been a lot of nfl qbs that are said to not have a "strong arm" but that doesn't mean they can't throw deep, it's just not as easy for them. From what I read about friday's game, he always had someone open so it wasn't an issue that he didn't go deep.

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