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Redskin Jim 08-16-2011, 05:30 PM So you mean to say that the only reason James Harrison is a top pass rusher is cause you think he took steroids? You think the reason Pittsburgh has been a dominant physical team is cause they're all juiced up? That is just ridiculous.
Hmm, Not so crazy. If you know NFL history, you may have heard of Lyle Alzado, and the Raiders of the 70's and 80's..:twocents:
Not saying that Pittsburgh is a squad full of juice monkeys, just saying there have been in the past.
CultBrennan59 08-16-2011, 06:30 PM Some of the steelers defense, specifically James Harrison. (Keisel, maybe Aaron Smith, Farrior, and Timmons)
Clay Matthews, even though I love the way he plays.
Cushing
Shawn Merriman
Suggs
Ray Lewis
LaRon
Richie Incognito, Marc Colombo, Leonard Davis, Logan Mankins,
Richard Seymour
Jay Ratliff
alaskaN8 08-16-2011, 06:50 PM no team or player will suffer from steroid testing. they players will just take something that is not illegal yet. just like this last year when ray lewis , roy williiams , and i am sure other people were taking deer antler velvet, the league made them stop, then made it a banned substance. they will find a new source for hgh or steriods and until someone comes up with a test to detect it ,thats what they will use.
Redskin Jim 08-16-2011, 06:53 PM no team or player will suffer from steroid testing. they players will just take something that is not illegal yet. just like this last year when ray lewis , roy williiams , and i am sure other people were taking deer antler velvet, the league made them stop, then made it a banned substance. they will find a new source for hgh or steriods and until someone comes up with a test to detect it ,thats what they will use.
This is the way it HAS BEEN FOR YEARS. The players have been one step ahead of the tests..
Chico23231 08-16-2011, 06:59 PM Ed Hochuli
Giantone 08-16-2011, 07:18 PM Yeah except I explained my thought process just a little more than that.
I didn't say all the Steelers cheat. I said average players show up on that team and over time their physical ability puts them on a whole different level. I find that very suspect.
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No not really.You might not have said "all Steelers cheat" but you implied it, as with saying the Giants and Ravens see above
I don't know what you call an average player but the pro game is differnt and has different work outs ,some players thrive in it .....some don't,doesn't mean it's pharmaceutically induced.
cpayne5 08-16-2011, 08:47 PM Ed Hochuli
Nice.
skinsfan69 08-16-2011, 09:06 PM Hmm, Not so crazy. If you know NFL history, you may have heard of Lyle Alzado, and the Raiders of the 70's and 80's..:twocents:
Not saying that Pittsburgh is a squad full of juice monkeys, just saying there have been in the past.
Lyle Alzado was not a great player.
sportscurmudgeon 08-16-2011, 11:10 PM I have always had my doubts about certain players and teams in this league and I am willing to bet one or two teams and a whole bunch of players are going to come crashing back to earth now that they can't cheat.
For example:
James Harrison - No way you go from a complete nobody to defensive MVP. No Way.
Clay Matthews - I can give like ten reasons why I think this guy cheats.
Pittsburgh Steelers - Don't believe that a team can sustain this level of physical freak dominance for such a sustained period of time. Solid players arrive on this team and in three years they are superior athletes. Over and over.
Baltimore Ravens - See above
New York Giants - See above
Disclaimer: These are just predictions and opinions.
It is also my opinion that a ton of NFL players have been cheating for a long long time.
Just curious here - - would any current Redskins' players be ones who have been "cheating for a long, long time"?
Or is "cheating" isolated to other teams?
If the Skins have any "cheaters" in your view, would you care to name some names?
wilsowilso 08-17-2011, 01:44 AM Just curious here - - would any current Redskins' players be ones who have been "cheating for a long, long time"?
Or is "cheating" isolated to other teams?
If the Skins have any "cheaters" in your view, would you care to name some names?
I have no doubt there are current players on every NFL team that have been using HGH or something similar. EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE NFL HAS CHEATERS ON IT.
The testing program that was in place was a complete JOKE.
Adam Archuleta was a very very suspect NFL player. I would bet a significant amount of money that he was a cheater.
I don't need a positive test to know for a fact that Barry Bonds was a massive steroid user.
He quite literally changed his body type in a way that is not humanly possible without a heavy dose of juice. His HR production skyrocketed in direct contrast to all evidence that his power numbers should be going in the opposite direction.
I could be wrong about all of my predictions.
This is all supposition and conjecture and I freely acknowledge that.
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