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diehard 08-16-2011, 11:18 PM Unless Davis steps up this year whats gonna happen is that we are going to make him an offer based on his production and some other team is going to step up and make him a much larger offer based on his potential.
Bingo! And if his production is stunted by the lack of opportunities that come with playing behind a legitimate number one TE, that'll be the likely scenario.
saden1 08-17-2011, 12:29 AM ...buuuuut Cooleys better.
Cooley top of his game > Freds top game
I think Fred should figure out to make plays off the #2.
I don't know about that since Davis had nearly 700 yards in just 9 starts. The only knock on him is his blocking is all but then again Cooley is no prize at that either...now Witten, that mofo can be a starting gaurd in the league.
Ruhskins 08-17-2011, 01:25 AM I don't get the urgency that people have to trade Cooley and/or start Davis. What's so terrible about having two quality tight ends? I think by the end of the season, if both Cooley and Davis perform well, the team will be in a good position to keep one player and trade the other. In the end, the goal should be to get the most out of both players and help the team win games, period.
tryfuhl 08-17-2011, 06:01 AM I don't get the urgency that people have to trade Cooley and/or start Davis. What's so terrible about having two quality tight ends? I think by the end of the season, if both Cooley and Davis perform well, the team will be in a good position to keep one player and trade the other. In the end, the goal should be to get the most out of both players and help the team win games, period.
At the end of the year Davis is a free agent and will go where he can start
sportscurmudgeon 08-17-2011, 03:57 PM Davis is a starting caliber TE. He would not leave here to be a backup anywhere else, therefore, any other team interested in his services would have him as the starting TE.
That is a VASTLY different statement than Davis could start for ANY other team.
In your re-formulated statement, Davis could be better than only 1 TE in the league who started last year to draw the attention of that one team who might want him to be their starter next year.
In your original statement, Davis had to be the best TE in all of the NFL for it to be correct.
For the record, there is no way on Planet Earth that Fred Davis is now or will be at the end of the 2011 NFL season the best TE in the NFL.
Could he be a starter for 10 NFL teams next season? Possibly.
Could he be a starter for 5 teams in the NFL next season? For sure.
Ruhskins 08-17-2011, 04:32 PM At the end of the year Davis is a free agent and will go where he can start
So the team can tag him if they seem fit to do so or extend him if he excels this season. I think both Cooley and Davis need to have a good year regardless and the trade talk is a bit premature (unless the team wants to gamble on keeping Davis and trading Cooley for little value).
tryfuhl 08-17-2011, 04:41 PM I'm not saying trade Cooley now, just it's not to soon to put Davis in and make it his job to lose, with the weight loss and speed increase they should find ways to get him.time at TE, WR, and maybe out of the backfield
GTripp0012 08-17-2011, 11:02 PM So the team can tag him if they seem fit to do so or extend him if he excels this season. I think both Cooley and Davis need to have a good year regardless and the trade talk is a bit premature (unless the team wants to gamble on keeping Davis and trading Cooley for little value).You're tagging Davis over Landry though? I mean, I'm a huge Fred Davis backer, but Landry is the only piece in our secondary I actually expect on this team three seasons from now.
If the plan is to make Davis the starter, there won't be a need to use the franchise tag on him because we can pretty much match his market value effortlessly. No one is giving him a Derrick Dockery Buffalo contract. If he's going to be a backup here though, he can pretty much walk and go get paid like a starter elsewhere.
Basically, we just need to make a decision. Chris Cooley and Logan Paulsen is a very good one-two at TE. But if that's not the future of our TE position, then Davis needs to start, immediately. Not next year. Now.
rbanerjee23 08-17-2011, 11:34 PM Yeah, I have a feeling Davis is really going to emerge this year -- I disagree about Landry being on the team longer than Davis however. I am pretty confident that the FO would feel much more comfortable letting Landry go over Davis.
Ruhskins 08-18-2011, 12:36 AM You're tagging Davis over Landry though? I mean, I'm a huge Fred Davis backer, but Landry is the only piece in our secondary I actually expect on this team three seasons from now.
If the plan is to make Davis the starter, there won't be a need to use the franchise tag on him because we can pretty much match his market value effortlessly. No one is giving him a Derrick Dockery Buffalo contract. If he's going to be a backup here though, he can pretty much walk and go get paid like a starter elsewhere.
Basically, we just need to make a decision. Chris Cooley and Logan Paulsen is a very good one-two at TE. But if that's not the future of our TE position, then Davis needs to start, immediately. Not next year. Now.
I think this year is going to be key for all the guys mentioned here. As talented as Landry is, we have to see how his health holds up. Unfortunately for him, he got injured just when he seemed to be headed for a Pro Bowl year. I'm sure Landry will be a priority to re-sign this season, and hopefully he heals up from this achilles injury and comes back 100%.
Right now I just don't see enough from Davis to anoint him as the starter. And I just don't think Cooley is going to gives us in return a good enough draft pick. Also, unless Davis has a monster year, I just don't see him easily walking away from the team. I think the team needs to figure out a way to get both Davis and Cooley to produce and see whether Cooley is still good enough to be the starter (and possibly gain value for a trade) and to see whether Davis can replace Cooley as the starter.
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