Redskins Hatters In The Media

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FRPLG
08-05-2011, 12:32 AM
Actually, it's more like "Be a mediocre team that has a history of bad personnel decisions and get criticized until you start winning."

This

Stuck in TX
08-05-2011, 12:40 AM
"6 plays. Split veer. It's like novacaine; give it time, it'll work" -Herman Boone

Right now its popular to make fun of the Redskins in the media. Need a butt of a joke? Hey the Redskins are sub .500 this year. Simple fact is we have over 10 years of embarrassment to make up for. Snyder's approach now, per fan feedback, is to step back and let our management/coach run this team like other successful franchises in the league. It will take time though. On another point, how many years in a row have we heard the f**king cowboys get so much praise as "the team to beat" or the "team to make the super bowl" and watched inconsistency and poor football playing? This makes the media look just as bad as when they make unwarranted jeers at our decisions. Our playing and our success will either shut them up or make them refer to us as posers or flukes. Either way, playoff appearances and SB rings talk. Not self proclaimed football pundits.

Dirtbag59
08-05-2011, 12:52 AM
"6 plays. Split veer. It's like novacaine; give it time, it'll work" -Herman Boone

Right now its popular to make fun of the Redskins in the media. Need a butt of a joke? Hey the Redskins are sub .500 this year. Simple fact is we have over 10 years of embarrassment to make up for Snyder's terrible management. His approach now, per fan feedback, is to step back and let our management/coach run this team like other successful franchises in the league. It will take time though. On another point, how many years in a row have we heard the f**king cowboys get so much praise as "the team to beat" or the "team to make the super bowl" and watched inconsistency and poor football playing? This makes the media look just as bad as when they make unwarranted jeers at our decisions. Our playing and our success will either shut them up or make them refer to us as posers or flukes. Either way, playoff appearances and SB rings talk. Not self proclaimed football pundits.

Cowboys have warranted the attention on some level. They have had quality backfields, a pro bowl passer, good lines, and the best pass rusher in the game along with a slew of other attributes. Not to mention the fact that their win totals the last few years (not including 2010) 11, 9 13, 9, 9. Most of the heavy Super Bowl hype kicked up after they won 13 games. And they still could win, kind of like the Giants and Packers with their out of no where Super Bowl victories.

HOWEVER, I'm inclined to think that the Boys Parcell magic is starting to wear off and we're getting closer and closer to the late 90's where Qunicy Carter was the truth and Dave Campo was Jurruh's puppet. However we may still be a few years away from that phase. Nevertheless I feel like it's coming. Either way, once Romo is gone or out of magic, they're done.

Stuck in TX
08-05-2011, 12:57 AM
Cowboys have warranted the attention on some level. They have had quality backfields, a pro bowl passer, good lines, and the best pass rusher in the game along with a slew of other attributes. Not to mention the fact that their win totals the last few years (not including 2010) 11, 9 13, 9, 9. Most of the heavy Super Bowl hype kicked up after they won 13 games. And they still could win, kind of like the Giants and Packers with their out of no where Super Bowl victories.

HOWEVER, I'm inclined to think that the Boys Parcell magic is starting to wear off and we're getting closer and closer to the late 90's where Qunicy Carter was the truth and Dave Campo was Jurruh's puppet. However we may still be a few years away from that phase. Nevertheless I feel like it's coming. Either way, once Romo is gone or out of magic, they're done.

My point (and I seem to not be making these very clearly lately, and I apologize for that) is how many times do the cowboys need to prove them wrong before the credibility is worn down?

Dirtbag59
08-05-2011, 01:04 AM
My point (and I seem to not be making these very clearly lately, and I apologize for that) is how many times do the cowboys need to prove them wrong before the credibility is worn down?

As long as they're posting 9 and better seasons year in and year out they have a chance. Think of them as the NFC version of the Colts without the once in a generation player. Same thing with the Eagles. It's one of those things where if you make it enough times your bound to eventually break through and get the 3 or 4 games necessary to be a champion

Good news for us though is the fact that last year they started to show chinks in the armor. The Giants also are starting to look weak as well (cap problems and two missed playoffs). If the Beck experiment pans out the East could be a race between the Skins and Eagles. However we need still need to learn to walk before we can run

Stuck in TX
08-05-2011, 01:13 AM
we need still need to learn to walk before we can run

I agree. And no one wants to report walking. I also like your take on us and the Eagles. For the record I don't care if they ever like us in the media. Like I said before when we put up, they will shut up. Or they wont...all that matters is the W's.

celts32
08-05-2011, 11:15 AM
Here is another trend to monitor:

When Doc Walker goes crazy over some athlete signing to come to DC - - does not matter the sport - - the guy will be an underachiever. Some of the "ballers" he has gone orgasmic about include:

Haynesworth - - and how he was going to make the Skins OL dominant like the Hogs because they would have to face him in practice every day. How's that for insight?

Juwann Howard (Wizards): Doc helped organize a rally outside the Wizards' office to sign Howard to a $105M deal.

Jaromir Jagr (Caps): He was Wayne Gretzky and Gordie Howe rolled into one.

Deion Sanders: Now the Skins' secondary would only have to defend half the field so imagine how many "pick Sixes" there would be...

Devin Thomas: If the Skins would only call the "9-route" for him (straight fly pattern), the whole league would take notice and defensive coordinators would have to adjust their thinking every time the Skins were on the schedule.

Fans love Doc because he tells them what they want to hear. Often, what they want to hear and reality have not much in common.

I agree 100%...Doc and that whole show is pretty much unlistenable. Sheehan & Lovero is the only good show on 980.

Jontrem
08-05-2011, 11:38 AM
Haha Darrel yeah that was one of them

GMScud
08-05-2011, 02:03 PM
I don't think it is hate. Or Hatte.
When you suck as long as we have (1992) and your owner (Danny) used to love seeing himself on TV as much as he used to, it is deserved criticism. Not hate.
We Redskins fans are quick to laugh at the perennially awful teams like Cleveland, Cincinnati, Detroit (no longer bad), St. Louis (also no longer terrible), etc. Guess what....we are part of that list until we can be a consistent playoff team.
You want the shit talk to stop.....start winning.
We have been embarrassingly bad at times in the last three years and when Spurrier was here. Add in all the embarrassing Snyderatto moments and it is safe to say we earned the shit talk.
Winning cures everything.
Plus..who really cares what others have to say about us.
Let's take care of our own business and punch some people in the mouth on the field this coming season.
HTTR!

Yeah I mean that's pretty much /thread. I've stayed away from this thread since it was posted because, and no offense to the OP, it's a silly notion. Yes, the Cowboys get a ridiculous amount of hype from ESPN (although not so much so far this year), but why shouldn't we be heavily criticized?

People that get upset when we get rolled through the mud make me laugh. I mean sure, it hurts when a team you love gets blasted on a national stage, but why shouldn't we? We've been an utter embarrassment on and off the field since Snyder bought the team. Like Defenswins said, we're right there with the Lions, Browns, and Bengals of the world as an NFL bottom feeder. Gibbs 2.0 was a bit of an exception, but not much.

Until we field a winner and stop winning the "offseason superbowl" (the latter I think is already happening), we're gonna get drubbed by the media, and deservedly so.

Longtimefan
08-05-2011, 02:13 PM
Yeah I mean that's pretty much /thread. I've stayed away from this thread since it was posted because, and no offense to the OP, it's a silly notion. Yes, the Cowboys get a ridiculous amount of hype from ESPN (although not so much so far this year), but why shouldn't we be heavily criticized?

People that get upset when we get rolled through the mud make me laugh. I mean sure, it hurts when a team you love gets blasted on a national stage, but why shouldn't we? We've been an utter embarrassment on and off the field since Snyder bought the team. Like Defenswins said, we're right there with the Lions, Browns, and Bengals of the world as an NFL bottom feeder. Gibbs 2.0 was a bit of an exception, but not much.

Until we field a winner and stop winning the "offseason superbowl" (the latter I think is already happening), we're gonna get drubbed by the media, and deservedly so.

There's nothing left to say....

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