Drafting Mike Williams

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Sheriff Gonna Getcha
12-31-2004, 02:56 PM
Ramseyfan - Both Mason and Bennett have more yards/TDs than coles. Mason is the #1 as far as Volek is concerned, and that's who got a majority of the yards/TDs this year.

Coles is a good receiver, but if you ask anyone around the league to name a big time receiver, no one will mention Coles. Moss, Johnson, TO, Holt, Harrison are the big names. Coles needs surgery, we need him healthy. I certainly don't want him going anywhere because I love the guy, but stat's are stats. Bruce and Holt have Chris Chandler throwing to them for the last 5 weeks - did you consider that? Every team goes through ups and downs and injuries, it's hard to use them as an excuse (obviously a receivers injury means he won't get the #s, but I mean as far as the team around them)

Coles is a great guy and a solid receiver, but I still think we need a big guy on the other side. A real clutch go-to guy in tight spots. Coles doesn't have the size to be a great receiver in the Redzone.

Bruce and Holt are in an offense that has thrown 66% of the time this season!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think that counteracts the Chandler effect. Plus we had Brunell. I'd take Chandler over Brunell.

Marvin Harrison is paid $9.6 million per year. Randy Moss is paid $9.2 million per year. Terrell Owens is paid over $7 million per year. Torry Holt is paid $6.4 million per year and is playing opposite Issac Bruce (just slightly better than Gardner). Chad Johnson is the only player on that list who doesn't have a monster contract ($5 million per year), who doesn't have a top notch superstar playing opposite him, or who doesn't have a great QB throwing to him (Palmer will be great).

You can't compare Coles to those guys. Anyone looks bad next to Harrison, T.O., or Moss.

You failed to mention Peerless Price. Does anyone besides me seem to remember that we almost signed Peerless Price instead of Laveranues Coles? In two seasons, Peerless has 102 catches (Coles has 169), Peerless has 1,367 yards (Coles has 2,117), and Peerless has 5 TDs (Coles has 7). Peerless has Vick under center, we have had Brunell, Ramsey, Hasselbeck and Rob Johnson. Price and Coles got about the same contract (Price's total value is slightly higher).

MTK
12-31-2004, 03:01 PM
It's impossible to compare players fairly, it's apples and oranges.

There's always things to consider like the system they're playing in, how often the team throws, how long they've been in the system, etc.

All I know is Coles is a damn good WR and we could certainly do ALOT worse. Rod Gardner as our #1 anyone??

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