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Ruhskins 07-29-2011, 01:59 PM "Regime" sounds communist but I agree...we're on the right track and have some great leaders finally! Now our blind optimism can be real optimism. :D
Mine is more like nearsighted optimism. LOL.
Monkeydad 07-29-2011, 02:05 PM I come in here every season as one of the few optimists here...always hoping for the best. In the past I had to try to love the Vinny moves...and they always backfired.
Now, I can see some REAL progress and actually believe what I say when I think the team will be better.
We're really lucky to have hired both Allen and Shanahan. We really need to appreciate them after a decade of Snyder and Ceratto trying to do whatever they were trying to do.
Spurrier seemed like such a great idea at the time. Heath Shuler was so exciting...until he stepped on the field. :doh:
GTripp0012 07-29-2011, 02:20 PM I think Bruce Allen is a good executive (he's won exec of the year before in the NFL), and I think there's plenty of evidence from this offseason if you want to see he's a good executive.
But overpaying Bowen and Chester is overpaying Bowen and Chester. Allen's thing is good contracts, and he's lived up to the hype so far, but his last two signings are not good, team-friendly contracts.
It's still way too early to limit the parallels between Vinny Cerrato's show and Mike Shanahan's show. If Shanahan is different, he'll win more games. Two years under Cerrato, we averaged six wins per year. One year under Shanahan, we won six games. If our current executives are better than our prior ones, it will show in the results. I promise.
Ruhskins 07-29-2011, 02:24 PM I think Bruce Allen is a good executive (he's won exec of the year before in the NFL), and I think there's plenty of evidence from this offseason if you want to see he's a good executive.
But overpaying Bowen and Chester is overpaying Bowen and Chester. Allen's thing is good contracts, and he's lived up to the hype so far, but his last two signings are not good, team-friendly contracts.
It's still way too early to limit the parallels between Vinny Cerrato's show and Mike Shanahan's show. If Shanahan is different, he'll win more games. Two years under Cerrato, we averaged six wins per year. One year under Shanahan, we won six games. If our current executives are better than our prior ones, it will show in the results. I promise.
GTripp, I heard somewhere that with this new floor, salary contracts this offseason would be a bit inflated and that teams would overpay for players. Do you think this is true?
Monkeydad 07-29-2011, 02:25 PM At least we didn't trade a Pro Bowl CB and 2nd-Round pick for a backup QB...then pay him $63 million. :D
GTripp0012 07-29-2011, 02:26 PM GTripp, I heard somewhere that with this new floor, salary contracts this offseason would be a bit inflated and that teams would overpay for players. Do you think this is true?There is no legislative incentive in 2011 for GMs to overpay players.
In the Redskins case, they enter 6 PM tonight with practically no player salary, so no one was saying they shouldn't spend money that they have. If I wanted to root for a penny pinching franchise, there's always the Bengals. But the cap freedom should just mean the freedom to make a bunch of good contracts that are team friendly and don't have to be structured with a limit in mind. The Redskins took on what appears to be two bad contracts in Bowen and Chester (I say appears because I haven't seen details on the Chester deal).
They are still no where near the 2011 salary cap for the record.
SirClintonPortis 07-29-2011, 02:27 PM "Regime" sounds communist but I agree...we're on the right track and have some great leaders finally! Now our blind optimism can be real optimism. :D
It's from French.
Monkeydad 07-29-2011, 02:54 PM It's from French.
Even worse than I thought then.
htownskinfan 07-29-2011, 03:06 PM can I say any louder that I LOVE THIS NEW REGIME .... little moves like this are what builds winners ... once you become the Patriots you can do the haynesworth, ochocinco moves but until then you have to have solid core players and build from that .. i love it .. we will be competitive ... i really think our offense is going to be smoother than we've seen in a LONG time and the Defense is getting younger, faster, and stronger .. WTF is going on, I feel like a real NFL team !! Let's celebrate in February not in July this is awesome !
I wish I had your enthusiam and optimism but its still too early with this regime.Im still pissed at them for the Mcnabb trade,{total bust}and the Haynesworth situation,which is as much on Shanahan as it is Big Al.What kind of fing moron takes a top 5 defense and switches it when you have 100 million tied up in a guy that plays the 4-3? Nobody or nothing will ever be able to justify that switch to me.
On the other hand,am i happy with the moves theyve made the past few days,yes
But were still going into the season with John {WHO?}Beck and Kellen Clemons,not happy with that situation
Monkeydad 07-29-2011, 03:27 PM I'll give you, McNabb was a bust for us and that was Shanny's idea, but Donovan's to blame too.
Do you realize that AH was causing problems for Zorn too? You can't blame Shanahan one bit for starting that. For $100 million, Albert should have been the punter if asked. He showed in a few games that he COULD be a great NT if he put any effort at all into it, so the whole "I am not a NT" whining is ridiculous.
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