MTK
08-09-2011, 01:53 PM
Like bust, another term that gets tossed around too easily around here... journeyman.
Redskins Receivers RotationMTK 08-09-2011, 01:53 PM Like bust, another term that gets tossed around too easily around here... journeyman. skinsfan69 08-09-2011, 02:57 PM Malcolm Kelly gives the saddest interview of training camp - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/malcolm-kelly-gives-the-saddest-interview-of-training-camp/2011/08/09/gIQArWzY4I_blog.html) Time's up for Kelly. Even he knows he's about to get axed. Sad sad tale. seems like a good kid too. just don't think football is in the cards for him. skinsfan69 08-09-2011, 02:59 PM Um...because he earned his spot? That's what Shanny does. You have to earn your spot. I'm sure if a rookie was outplaying Jabar Gaffney then he'd be lower on the depth chart. They aren't. We all know that these guys have to EARN their way onto the football field. That's the tone Mike set last year, and that's the way it will be. well i wouldn't expect any of the younger guys to beat out Gafney in the first few weeks of camp. skinsfan69 08-09-2011, 03:09 PM I meant to post this a while back in this thread. Last year Shanahan drafted Austin and added Banks and Armstrong as UDFA's and placed Kelly on IR instead of cutting him. Banks and Armstrong contributed, Austin didnt. This year we added Hankerson and Paul as rookie WR's, plus a whole bunch FA's and a couple UDFA's. I think Shanahan just likes to overload at a position of need for competition or to set a tone or precedence or whatever. For fans it can suck because its hard to fall in love with a guy like Banks or Armstrong and then see him knocked down the depth chart or cut but its probably whats best for the team. http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/34635-thoughts-of-a-broncos-fan.html well part of the reason austin didn't get on the field cause shanahan kept trotting out 50 year old joey galloway and roydell williams. that made 0 sense to me. and in a way he's doing it again with career underachiever stallworth and jouneymen gafney. i think shanahan brings in these old guys cause he doesn't realize this is a rebuilding job. again, we're not going anywhere this year. what's the quickest way to get better? free agency? no, we tried that. draft and play young guys, let them play together? get some chemistry? correct, see pittsburgh. Kindoy 08-09-2011, 03:14 PM we could have done without picking up Stallworth. he'll end up making the team this year & be gone the next all the while causing us to lose either Banks, Paul, or Robinson. All of whom can have a much bigger impact on the organization in the long haul, than Stallworth who may do well this year, but will be retired within the next few seasons. edit: i don't say the same for gaffney because we did need to pick up one vet receiver to help out and i think gaffney is better than stallworth skinsfan69 08-09-2011, 03:17 PM This is the worse logic ive ever heard. I'm sick of hearing about this.. "Letting the young guys develop" They are going to develop by just being at the game, playing Special Teams, and earning the starting job. Shanahan has already proven that the hardest working, and best will play before the rest. So if Jabar is playing and looking better then the younger guys, then he should play. He's under contract as well. We are here to win football games, and if Jabar gives us the best chance of winning, then i'm all for him starting. This is not a Madden video game where you think your going to draft 7 players in the draft and play them all in the top of the depth chart. The NFL is about putting the pieces together and winning, and to continue winning. Vets, Rookies, and Journeyman alike.. In all of football, how many teams ahve you seen in the NFL start more then 3-4 rookies? Yeah, there are teams with YOUNGER rosters, but since the Redskins took the FA team approach for so many years we have a ways to go, but why cant we just WIN NOW!? I'm tired of hearing this "Let's continue to build, and develop stuff" If I was London Fletcher, or Santana Moss and heard you guys saying stuff like this, I would slap you in your cheek like those old duelers did. And what have we won with Moss and Fletcher? They're great pros, I like them a lot, but it's just time to turn the page. What did we win with all the free agents that have come and gone over the years. One freakin' playoff game where the defense had to win the game for us. That's a fact, not a opinion. Shanahan really isn't even the right guy for this job but that's another thread. MTK 08-09-2011, 03:27 PM I can see this is going nowhere. The young guys will play... when they earn their spots. GTripp0012 08-09-2011, 05:10 PM Um...because he earned his spot? That's what Shanny does. You have to earn your spot. I'm sure if a rookie was outplaying Jabar Gaffney then he'd be lower on the depth chart. They aren't. We all know that these guys have to EARN their way onto the football field. That's the tone Mike set last year, and that's the way it will be.They already had competition between all the young receivers. Bringing in a guy like Gaffney doesn't create more competition, it ends all competition (for Gaffney's spot that is). It is counter to the NFLs established culture to bring in vets to compete for the spots held by first and second year players. I agree with skinsfan69 about 75%. Gaffney is probably the third best receiver on the Redskins, at least until Hankerson has a few snaps under his belt. Maybe he's better than Moss, even. That's hard to say, but they're close in terms of numbers. So he "deserves" his spot if the be all end all is "winning games with the 2011 Redskins." You have a better shot of doing that with Jabar Gaffney than with Terrence Austin. And for Mike Shanahan, this probably is the end game. But that's why you don't hire a head coach in his mid-fifties if you're trying to rebuild. And it's especially why you don't make that guy your personnel guy. Shanahan's not screwing up here: he knows exactly what he's doing. Problem is, we're all still going to be fans of this team in 2014, and Mike Shanahan couldn't care less about how successful that team will be. GTripp0012 08-09-2011, 05:11 PM I can see this is going nowhere. The young guys will play... when they earn their spots.So, never, essentially? MTK 08-09-2011, 05:26 PM So, never, essentially? I wouldn't say that at all. Hankerson could easily step into the #2 role once he gets some experience. I think there's definitely room for the young guys to move up once they get their feet wet. Tough to expect them to be ready for prime time with no offseason. I think Gaffney was brought in to help bridge that gap. |
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