NFL Player Holdouts - 2011

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Monkeydad
07-29-2011, 12:14 PM
DeSean is underpaid for what he's done, but he has signed a contract and should play for it...just as Haynesworth should have played after signing his. Sure he's worth more than his salary but stop crying and fulfill your obligations. Besides, at $560,000 a year, he can't afford to hold out too many days since he's being fined $30,000 a day!


Another one: Chris Johnson

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Ruhskins
07-29-2011, 12:19 PM
DeSean is underpaid for what he's done, but he has signed a contract and should play for it...just as Haynesworth should have played after signing his. Sure he's worth more than his salary but stop crying and fulfill your obligations. Besides, at $560,000 a year, he can't afford to hold out too many days since he's being fined $30,000 a day!


Another one: Chris Johnson

Twitter (http://twitter.com/#!/jwyattsports/status/96954798401794048)

So you don't believe in raises? Teams will try to get the most out of a players and pay the least amount of money. Although they have to pay the guaranteed money, teams also break player contracts when they cut players.

I swear, it baffles me how much normal people can relate to and sympathize with millionaire owners. When a team cuts a player, everyone says "oh it's a business decision", but when a player asks for a raise, everyone piles up on the player.

I don't know much about Gore's or Johnson's situation. But Jackson has been a beast for the Eagles and deserves to be paid more.

SirClintonPortis
07-29-2011, 12:31 PM
So you don't believe in raises? Teams will try to get the most out of a players and pay the least amount of money. Although they have to pay the guaranteed money, teams also break player contracts when they cut players.

I swear, it baffles me how much normal people can relate to and sympathize with millionaire owners. When a team cuts a player, everyone says "oh it's a business decision", but when a player asks for a raise, everyone piles up on the player.

I don't know much about Gore's or Johnson's situation. But Jackson has been a beast for the Eagles and deserves to be paid more.

Football players bargain based on how their salary is relative to other football players. However, their actual pay on an "absolute" level is rather substantial, often six figures. Hence, "morals" kick in and identify said player as "selfish".

But ****, some tenant breaks a lease and everyone sympathizes with the tenant against the "evil" landlord even if they totally trash the place.

It's really simple, people love to talk through "principles", but they actually operate under a UTILITARIAN morals.

Monkeydad
07-29-2011, 12:34 PM
So you don't believe in raises? Teams will try to get the most out of a players and pay the least amount of money. Although they have to pay the guaranteed money, teams also break player contracts when they cut players.

I swear, it baffles me how much normal people can relate to and sympathize with millionaire owners. When a team cuts a player, everyone says "oh it's a business decision", but when a player asks for a raise, everyone piles up on the player.

I don't know much about Gore's or Johnson's situation. But Jackson has been a beast for the Eagles and deserves to be paid more.

He should absolutely get a raise, he's earned it. But, you don't stop showing up for work until you get a raise. He's not showing much of a work ethic or regard for his team right now...a bit Haynesworthian in a way.

I have no problem if he publicly said "I deserve more money" because it's true...but show up and prove you're worthy of it.

Ruhskins
07-29-2011, 12:51 PM
He should absolutely get a raise, he's earned it. But, you don't stop showing up for work until you get a raise. He's not showing much of a work ethic or regard for his team right now...a bit Haynesworthian in a way.

I have no problem if he publicly said "I deserve more money" because it's true...but show up and prove you're worthy of it.

I agree. But unfortunately holding out seems to be the only bargaining chip that the players have.

saden1
07-29-2011, 12:51 PM
They are all an injury away from one leg with a permanent limp and the other leg in the poor house. Best get yourself paid before you get laid off.

Monkeydad
07-29-2011, 12:54 PM
I agree. But unfortunately holding out seems to be the only bargaining chip that the players have.

Not anymore with the $30K/day penalty. Teams who really don't want to pay know these players can't hold out for long.

over the mountain
07-29-2011, 01:08 PM
i think teams should have a known criteria for when they may consider re-doing a rookie contract. i completely agree with players like chris johnson and jackson.

my criteria:
in your 3rd or 4th year of a rookie contract
making less than 800k per year
top 10 in specific categories or other predetermined criteria

if i was a player like cj or desean and my team didnt want to restructure after ive earned a raise, i would tell them that when my contract expires i will only re-sign with them for 3-5 mil more than it should be to make up for the lost income in my rookie years.

it just seems like bad business to me to short change a premier player who has done alot for your team. that cant brew happiness.

JoeRedskin
07-29-2011, 01:23 PM
i think teams should have a known criteria for when they may consider re-doing a rookie contract. i completely agree with players like chris johnson and jackson.

my criteria:
in your 3rd or 4th year of a rookie contract
making less than 800k per year
top 10 in specific categories or other predetermined criteria

if i was a player like cj or desean and my team didnt want to restructure after ive earned a raise, i would tell them that when my contract expires i will only re-sign with them for 3-5 mil more than it should be to make up for the lost income in my rookie years.

it just seems like bad business to me to short change a premier player who has done alot for your team. that cant brew happiness.

Agreed. You want the "home town discount"? Now is the time for it. If you make me risk my payday by playing at a discount this year, you get the "home town premium" next year.

Monkeydad
07-29-2011, 01:43 PM
Ha...

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