Daseal
03-15-2004, 06:55 PM
What happens to our second round pick. Does everyone below us just move up a spot and there is 1 less pick? Or does another team get it somehow?
Incase of greivance going LaVar's wayPages :
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Daseal 03-15-2004, 06:55 PM What happens to our second round pick. Does everyone below us just move up a spot and there is 1 less pick? Or does another team get it somehow? johnnyredskin63 03-15-2004, 07:11 PM What happens to our second round pick. Does everyone below us just move up a spot and there is 1 less pick? Or does another team get it somehow? we could lose this year's and next year's pick.and we could also lose arrington if the league office declares him a free agent.remember the little incident a few years back when the timberwolves tried to hide a bunch of money it was gonna give joe smith?the penalty was losing 5 draft picks,the player and a fine. :madani: Defensewins 03-15-2004, 07:16 PM Did the Redskins do anything illegal? Judging by redskins management quote, they say they do not owe Arrington the money. They say it was his agent that signed the contract and the contract did not include the $6m signing bonus Lavar thought he was getting. Daseal 03-15-2004, 07:23 PM I'm not saying they did, just curious of the penelty. Now, next year's whole draft or just the 1st rounder? sportscurmudgeon 03-16-2004, 12:48 AM Daseal: The answer to your question is that it is too soon to tell. IF the Redskins owe Arrington the money and the reason they owe him the money is some kind of paperwork misunderstanding or something like that, then the penalty will not be severe - unless his signing last season put the Skins over last year's cap and screwed all that up. Then I have exactly no idea what the collective bargaining agreement calls for since that season is over and done with. :confused: HOWEVER, if the Skins owe Arrington the money AND the determination is that they deliberately filed the wrong numbers with the league to keep extra cap room for themselves OR if they owe Arrington the money because it was found to be an enforceable agreement that was not reported to the league purposely, then the Redskins will likely get the hammer dropped on them. The NBA precedent of losing 4 first round picks over a 5 year span will not apply here but you can look for some or all of the following penalties IN THE WORST CASE: 1. Arrington is a free agent and cannot resign with Washington. 2. Loss of draft picks (first round pick this year and maybe another first rounder sometime in the next two years). If the case is decided after this year's draft, then possibly first round picks in 05 and 07. 3. Huge fine. 4. League oversight of EVERY Washington contract for the next several years meaning that signings and trades will not be finalized quickly because the league will take time to review every detail with all parties. 5. Person(s) found to have deliberately misled the league to circumvent the cap (or to try to circumvent the cap) could be suspended and not allowed to have contact with the team for X years. Yes, that could be Danny Boy. Remember when the league made Eddie deBartolo stay away from the 49ers for two years while he was under indictment and he subsequently lost control of the team to his sister and his brother-in-law? As I've said before, this case is probably not much of anything other than a misunderstanding about money which can be settled pretty directly. But on the slim chance it is something more sinister, we need to pay close attention... skins009 03-16-2004, 12:58 AM I don't think there is anyway that arrington can become a free agent. He is just asking for the contract he signed to be thrown out. He would stil be under contract under his old deal. Plus I don't think he really has a good case, based on the fact that his agent initialed every page of the contract. I think we have another case of an agent screwing up mightly if there argument is in fact true. When you initial it means that you have raed it, and they should have noticed 6.5 million missing. I think the deal is more than fair for lavar. He shouldn't complain even for a second. He's lucky to get that much money for the way he played last year. sportscurmudgeon 03-16-2004, 01:05 AM skins009: On this point I am 99.9% certain: Lavar's old contract is null and void. So either the new one stands up to scrutiny or he does not have a contract. And if he did have his old contract, then all the signings in this offseason will be effected because LaVar's new contract saved the Skins a boatload of cap space. Like I said, this is probably NOT going to be a big deal, but just in case it is, there aren't any really good outcomes for the Redskins. htownskinfan 03-16-2004, 01:28 AM this is exactly the kind of thing we dont need,arrington thinks he's owed the money whether his agent signed off of it or not,he's pissed and he wants his money and he's going to resent the team for not giving it to him,this is going to turn out bad just like the Terrell Owens situation JWsleep 03-16-2004, 01:59 AM Check out the claims in the Times article. It sounds like Lavar doesn't have that much of a case, at least as far as things look from the outside. The extra 6.5 mil bonus would be in addition to a 6.5 mil bonus ALREADY in the contract. That makes the bonus too big to be true, according to the times. The whole thing is very weird. Check out the article: http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20040315-114725-6069r.htm SkinsRock 03-16-2004, 09:26 AM I really like Lavar and he is one of my favorite Skins, BUT...one thing in today's Post article really got me going...he is "the highest paid linebacker in the NFL"...and that's without the 6.5 mil roster bonus. Shut up, get a new agent, and do your damn job!!! :screama: |
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