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GMScud 07-18-2011, 06:30 PM "Sex offenders and perpetrators of some violent crimes would not be covered."
Anthony was convicted of three counts of providing false information to the police - not a sex offense or violent crime. Apparently, under the law as proposed, she would not need to disclose that. Sorry, she is a perfect example of why I should be able to say "Nope".
This.
Daseal 07-18-2011, 07:27 PM JoeRedskin -- Exactly. She was convicted of providing false information to the police. Is that enough of a crime for you to not rent your apartment? People give false information to the cops constantly. She was acquitted of other charges.
JoeRedskin 07-18-2011, 07:42 PM JoeRedskin -- Exactly. She was convicted of providing false information to the police. Is that enough of a crime for you to not rent your apartment? People give false information to the cops constantly. She was acquitted of other charges.
Yup. Damn straight. You provide false info to the police? AND are convicted of it? You're someone who would risk jail time to tell a lie? How can I believe anything you say?
"People give false information to the cops constantly"?? And are convicted for it? So I should have to do business with convicted liars? Sorry - I generally don't give false informatiion to the police. Do you? Further, I generally try not to hang out with/or around people that would put me in a situation that require me to lie to the police. When looking for people to do business with, I look for those same qualities.
You don't see the problem in doing business with people convicted of deceitful behavior?
You are free to employ her, rent to her or otherwise trust her to behave responsibly and reliably. I, however, believe I can find someone more trustworthy on whom to risk my and my family's economic well being.
GMScud 07-19-2011, 10:22 AM SF To Shutter Courtrooms; Lay Off 200 Workers - News Story - KTVU San Francisco (http://www.ktvu.com/news/28586520/detail.html)
but hey, let's protect the ex-cons... :doh:
saden1 07-19-2011, 11:39 AM Yup. Damn straight. You provide false info to the police? AND are convicted of it? You're someone who would risk jail time to tell a lie? How can I believe anything you say?
"People give false information to the cops constantly"?? And are convicted for it? So I should have to do business with convicted liars? Sorry - I generally don't give false informatiion to the police. Do you? Further, I generally try not to hang out with/or around people that would put me in a situation that require me to lie to the police. When looking for people to do business with, I look for those same qualities.
You don't see the problem in doing business with people convicted of deceitful behavior?
You are free to employ her, rent to her or otherwise trust her to behave responsibly and reliably. I, however, believe I can find someone more trustworthy on whom to risk my and my family's economic well being.
Your action and that of many is nothing more than collusive mob justice. She has no choice but to leave the country.
Ultimately, whether through tax incentives or other means society will pay.
JoeRedskin 07-19-2011, 11:50 AM Fine. Buy a house, rehab it, and rent it to her. I promise not to stop you.
Society "pays" for everything. Sometimes it gets a good return on its investment, sometimes not.
Longtimefan 07-19-2011, 04:28 PM This on the heels of a recent Supreme Court ruling that California must release some 30,000 prisoners within the next two years due to overcrowding. The court ruled the overcrowding constitutes cruel and unusual punishment.
Supreme Court Demands California Release 30,000 Inmates - COLORLINES (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcolorlines.com%2Farchives%2F2011% 2F05%2Fsupreme_court_demands_california_release_pr isoners.html&ei=x-YlTuDOB-Wz0AGIifHFCg&usg=AFQjCNGyPXBtlfyXYwmAJGRS0QNgIgI6nw&sig2=96hbKgKrqK4jmA7x22ekIQ)
polywog 09-09-2011, 04:40 PM There is a problem with making people second class citizens. Where do they live? If they can't rent an apartment, they will probably move into some guys house in the suburbs....or worse, they will pitch a tent in the woods and operate off the grid. You can't constantly kick the can. Eventually, these people need homes and gainful employment.
As far as I'm concerned ether lock someone up, or let them be free. Don't make them live like an animal, otherwise they will act like one.
firstdown 09-09-2011, 08:55 PM There is a problem with making people second class citizens. Where do they live? If they can't rent an apartment, they will probably move into some guys house in the suburbs....or worse, they will pitch a tent in the woods and operate off the grid. You can't constantly kick the can. Eventually, these people need homes and gainful employment.
As far as I'm concerned ether lock someone up, or let them be free. Don't make them live like an animal, otherwise they will act like one.
I'm guessing you don't own rental property. I do and got tired of fixing up the apartments after some ass hole trashed MY property. I started doing back ground checks and things improved 100%. The people making out in my case are the lower income people who play by the rules but just don't make allot of money.
SirClintonPortis 09-09-2011, 09:41 PM There is a problem with making people second class citizens. Where do they live? If they can't rent an apartment, they will probably move into some guys house in the suburbs....or worse, they will pitch a tent in the woods and operate off the grid. You can't constantly kick the can. Eventually, these people need homes and gainful employment.
As far as I'm concerned ether lock someone up, or let them be free. Don't make them live like an animal, otherwise they will act like one.
If the government wants landlords to rent out rooms to felons, then they should be responsible for giving the landlords incentive to do such a thing. What landlords risk every time they rent out to a tenant is a "bad" tenant who does not pay or damages/destroys the property. Landlords want to minimize that risk and hence do credit checks and background checks.
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