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30gut 07-11-2011, 09:23 PM Here's an interesting breakdown of league wide 1st down tendencies and outcomes thru week 9:
Pass (tied for 6th highest) 54%
YPA: 6.82
Run 46%
YPC: 3.65
"You have to get to know your team," he said. "I think I’ll do a better job next year calling plays...It was kind of a work in progress for everyone last season. You [have to] get in a rhythm, start getting first downs and get going on long drives."
For Kyle Shanahan, Third Downs Are Key (http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/For-Kyle-Shanahan-Third-Downs-Are-Key/3b9931b9-1324-4333-a758-00dcc5f095d0)
Hog Heaven 07-11-2011, 10:19 PM I like Keiland Williams as well, a lot, actually. And I agree he's a much better runner in the scheme. But...I guess the illusion was that Torain was more productive. Actually, I agree, I have no idea why Keiland didn't get more touches. YOU WIN THAT ONE, SIR!
But in 2009, Kyle had no running backs. His number one back got injured. They tried inserting guys in there, but couldn't find anyone. But when Arian Foster came in and he played well, they let him play, and he played well.
I don't think Kyle has a problem running the ball, I just think he has to find the guy to run the ball consistently.
Or maybe Mike needs to smack Kyle upside the head sometimes and tell him to run the ball or he'll have to mow the grass
He'll be mowing the grass a lot next year.....
skinster 07-12-2011, 12:40 PM I like Keiland Williams as well, a lot, actually. And I agree he's a much better runner in the scheme. But...I guess the illusion was that Torain was more productive. Actually, I agree, I have no idea why Keiland didn't get more touches. YOU WIN THAT ONE, SIR!
But in 2009, Kyle had no running backs. His number one back got injured. They tried inserting guys in there, but couldn't find anyone. But when Arian Foster came in and he played well, they let him play, and he played well.
I don't think Kyle has a problem running the ball, I just think he has to find the guy to run the ball consistently.
Or maybe Mike needs to smack Kyle upside the head sometimes and tell him to run the ball or he'll have to mow the grass
Its hard to run the ball when your constantly behind in the game.
Its also hard to execute an offense without an offensive line, running back, wide receiving core, fullback, or quarterback that are adequate. Tight end is really all we had.
I blame kyle zero for our lack of offensive production. Personally I think we overachieved offensively due to our lack of talent, but nobody please respond to that, I don't feel like getting into that argument.
Even Kyle admits last year was a work in progress and he needs to improve. I think our offensive shortcomings were mainly due to a lack of talent too, but Kyle S. has to share some blame as well.
skinster 07-12-2011, 01:01 PM Even Kyle admits last year was a work in progress and he needs to improve. I think our offensive shortcomings were mainly due to a lack of talent too, but Kyle S. has to share some blame as well.
I like that he said that. IMO what that means is that he is going to tweak his systems to more fit the talent around him as opposed to just doing what worked with other teams. I think this is a good indicator that he is smart, sees what works and what doesnt, is growing as a coach, and is able to adapt.
I'm not kyle's number one fan, but like you I don't believe it to be kyle's fault of our offensive shortcomings. I also like that it seems he has high expectations, and believes in his ability to maximize talent and succeed with whoever he has out there (not that he doesn't want the best talent possible). Learning these words is encouraging to me.
Chico23231 07-12-2011, 01:31 PM Even Kyle admits last year was a work in progress and he needs to improve. I think our offensive shortcomings were mainly due to a lack of talent too, but Kyle S. has to share some blame as well.
Yeah, i mean its hard to read two people go back and forth about K. Williams and Torrain. A 3rd down back at best and an often injuried FA...lets pray to god someone new emerges at the RB this season. It would probably help Kyle a sh*tton
30gut 07-12-2011, 09:25 PM Here's an interesting breakdown of league wide 1st down tendencies and outcomes thru week 9:
Pass (tied for 6th highest) 54%
YPA: 6.82
Run 46%
YPC: 3.65
For Kyle Shanahan, Third Downs Are Key (http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/For-Kyle-Shanahan-Third-Downs-Are-Key/3b9931b9-1324-4333-a758-00dcc5f095d0)
Forgot to post the link to the 1st down stats:
Steelers 1st Down Run & Pass Stats Through First Half Of 2010 Season | Steelers Depot (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2010/11/steelers-1st-down-run-pass-stats-through-first-half-of-2010-season/)
GusFrerotte 07-12-2011, 09:53 PM Even Kyle admits last year was a work in progress and he needs to improve. I think our offensive shortcomings were mainly due to a lack of talent too, but Kyle S. has to share some blame as well.
I think it is more of a lack of talent than Shanny Jr. I don't thik Shanny Jr is going to be our savior anymore than his dad, but we had a real crappy team last year offensively.
30gut 07-13-2011, 06:45 AM Kyle's statements leads me to believe that hethinks we could have been better with the talent we had.
And I agree with him.
30gut 07-30-2011, 06:25 AM Kyle's priorities for the offense: "We need to run the ball better. We need to run the ball more, and we have to be better on third downs."Amen.
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