Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

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Monkeydad
06-27-2011, 03:07 PM
Uhh, thread title.

http://i.imgur.com/hz9ke.gif

SmootSmack
06-27-2011, 03:14 PM
Uhh, thread title.

http://i.imgur.com/hz9ke.gif

So why are you asking Dirtbag?

mredskins
06-27-2011, 03:22 PM
I will say I support same sex simply becasue it really doesn't affect me in anyway or my marriage. So why be against something that has no bearing to me but may bring happiness to someone else? Would seem foolish to be like that.

Any who with that said it still creeps me out to see two guys kiss but hey whatever floats your boat.

firstdown
06-27-2011, 03:39 PM
So was anyone here there at the parade.

Beemnseven
06-27-2011, 07:33 PM
It doesn't look like anyone here is opposed to gay marriage. So I'll throw out some arguments against it (I've seen them in other message boards) and see what we can do with them.

1. Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says the real issue comes up when those gay couples decide they want to adopt -- what happens when children are brought into the mix?

2. Just check out some of the posts here at Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2739679/posts). Just as an example ... "They just spit on Christ"

The real problem are those that look at the issue from a purely spiritual perspective; those that actually, truly believe that God will strike the United States just as he struck Sodom and Gamorrah. You obviously can't reason with people like that -- just like you can't reason with people who fly planes into buildings because their magical sky-god tells them to.

If this gets to the Supreme Court, and it comes to a 5-4 decision in favor of gay marriage, I'm thinking the outrage will be like nothing we've ever seen in this country.

Dirtbag59
06-27-2011, 07:41 PM
It doesn't look like anyone here is opposed to gay marriage. So I'll throw out some arguments against it (I've seen them in other message boards) and see what we can do with them.

1. Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says the real issue comes up when those gay couples decide they want to adopt -- what happens when children are brought into the mix?

2. Just check out some of the posts here at Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2739679/posts). Just as an example ... "They just spit on Christ"

The real problem are those that look at the issue from a purely spiritual perspective; those that actually, truly believe that God will strike the United States just as he struck Sodom and Gamorrah. You obviously can't reason with people like that -- just like you can't reason with people who fly planes into buildings because their magical sky-god tells them to.

If this gets to the Supreme Court, and it comes to a 5-4 decision in favor of gay marriage, I'm thinking the outrage will be like nothing we've ever seen in this country.

Yeah, because leaving kids in a crowded foster homes instead of a life of luxury that many gay couples seem to afford is just TERRIBLE. Better off in a foster home.

Well, MY question is why don't those families adopt children in foster care who need families NOW - there are over 500,000 children in foster care at the moment, many of them are waiting for adoption:

GMScud
06-27-2011, 07:42 PM
So was anyone here there at the parade.

I have four employees who are openly gay, and they went to the pride celebrations in DC a few weeks back. It's a great showing of solidarity for the gay community, and they had a wonderful time and garner from it a strong sense of identity. I think it's great. I can't imagine how difficult it is as a young adult in high school struggling with your own sexuality while dealing with all the other life challenges high school brings.

12thMan
06-27-2011, 10:22 PM
Beemnseven, you raise a few very good points. From Hannity of all people!

Starting from the bottom of your post and working upwards, I don't think the Supreme Court will, or should, touch this issue with a ten foot pole. I believe it would become so politicized and fracture our society in ways unimaginable. To be clear, I'm not suggesting in any way that the issue in of itself would cause such a division, because people will believe what they believe no matter what. But for the highest court in the land to make such a decree, and essentially rubber stamp what's deemed to be moral, religiously and constitutionally acceptable would have profound consequences that would set a dangerous precedent far beyond the institution of marriage.

It should be left for the states to decide, as it's currently being handled. I must add that I'm glad the President has handled himself as the leader of the country and not following the polls on the issue or as a left wing ideologue.

In terms of should kids being raised in by gay parents? I don't think there's any empirical evidence that suggests one way or another. One thing is for sure, the modern day family structure is vastly different from the model of June and Ward Cleaver. I think kids are just, if not moreso, as influenced by what they see and read online than the comings and goings of mom and dad.

"Spitting on Christ"...don't get me started on that one.

JoeRedskin
06-27-2011, 11:02 PM
Sorry, I don't think this is all that big an issue for the s.c. Sure, there would politics, etc. But these same factors went into Roe v. Wade. Unlike abortion, this is an issue that has been in the public forum for close to a decade.

Further, the SC could simply ratify the "It's a State isssue" standard and do so in a manner that essentially washes their hands of the issue.

Dirtbag59
06-27-2011, 11:35 PM
I have four employees who are openly gay, and they went to the pride celebrations in DC a few weeks back. It's a great showing of solidarity for the gay community, and they had a wonderful time and garner from it a strong sense of identity. I think it's great. I can't imagine how difficult it is as a young adult in high school struggling with your own sexuality while dealing with all the other life challenges high school brings.

And you haven't fired them? Happy employees are lazy employees Scud.

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