mlmpetert
02-22-2012, 11:46 AM
Does anyone else think within 20 years our country will be far more progressive than it is now. It seems like the people in power are still stuck in the 50's. It seems like my generation has a lot of political ideals in common. Most everyone I know is socially very liberal and fiscally wants to be very responsible.
That doesn't mean there aren't core differences. But all of us want to spend the money in a responsible manner. Especially the majority of people (granted a small sample) that I know all being socially liberal will get rid of a lot of the silly hangups that happen now in the political process.
I dont know, i agree with far more socially liberal but not sure about progressive in general. We are part of the same generation and everyone I know is also pretty social liberal, I don’t think I have any friends that oppose same sex marriage. I too think most are also very fiscally conservative. It seems the core of our politics are libertarian leaning, perhaps because weve grown up with the most unrestricted thing in decades, the internet.
But it seems like people become more socially conservative with age, so perhaps many of us are destined to become less tolerant to same sex marriage as time goes on. Also Hispanics are the fastest growing minority in the US, most are Catholic and I believe in general they often carry very conservative social views. And the older population is living longer. Political interest is controlled by those who are organized and regular voting participants. Religious organizations, old people, minorities and other voting blocs can make their voices heard much easier then say your average 40 year old that isn’t part of any special interest group and only votes during presidential elections.
I don’t think the Federal Marriage Amendment has a chance, even if say Rick Santorum won and republicans attempted to forced it through like democrats with obamacare. I said a while back in this thread the primary reason the federal government has a say in marriage is tax code related. Less and less people are getting married now a days and less are having kids or at least as many kids as they have before. The tax code is outdated for these 2 issues, in addition to many others. At some point its going to get massively reformed, and I bet when it does provisions for taxation and entitlements for married couples and parents will be part of the reform. Once the federal government is taken out of the issue states will be allowed to determining the full scope of marriage law and I think nearly all will allow for same sex marriage.
That doesn't mean there aren't core differences. But all of us want to spend the money in a responsible manner. Especially the majority of people (granted a small sample) that I know all being socially liberal will get rid of a lot of the silly hangups that happen now in the political process.
I dont know, i agree with far more socially liberal but not sure about progressive in general. We are part of the same generation and everyone I know is also pretty social liberal, I don’t think I have any friends that oppose same sex marriage. I too think most are also very fiscally conservative. It seems the core of our politics are libertarian leaning, perhaps because weve grown up with the most unrestricted thing in decades, the internet.
But it seems like people become more socially conservative with age, so perhaps many of us are destined to become less tolerant to same sex marriage as time goes on. Also Hispanics are the fastest growing minority in the US, most are Catholic and I believe in general they often carry very conservative social views. And the older population is living longer. Political interest is controlled by those who are organized and regular voting participants. Religious organizations, old people, minorities and other voting blocs can make their voices heard much easier then say your average 40 year old that isn’t part of any special interest group and only votes during presidential elections.
I don’t think the Federal Marriage Amendment has a chance, even if say Rick Santorum won and republicans attempted to forced it through like democrats with obamacare. I said a while back in this thread the primary reason the federal government has a say in marriage is tax code related. Less and less people are getting married now a days and less are having kids or at least as many kids as they have before. The tax code is outdated for these 2 issues, in addition to many others. At some point its going to get massively reformed, and I bet when it does provisions for taxation and entitlements for married couples and parents will be part of the reform. Once the federal government is taken out of the issue states will be allowed to determining the full scope of marriage law and I think nearly all will allow for same sex marriage.