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KI Skins Fan 06-12-2011, 11:31 AM I think we will hold on to him through training camp looking for a trade and if we cant find one then i think we will release him.
Training camp? Oh, no! This team doesn't need another AH training camp fiasco. The next one would be even worse than the first one. This man will not be in good enough physical shape for training camp. Allowing him to be seen in training camp by other teams would probably reduce his trade value to zero, if it's not there already.
Beyond that, I think that it would be a mistake to ever again allow AH to attend any team activity.
juskins 06-12-2011, 03:13 PM Training camp? Oh, no! This team doesn't need another AH training camp fiasco. The next one would be even worse than the first one. This man will not be in good enough physical shape for training camp. Allowing him to be seen in training camp by other teams would probably reduce his trade value to zero, if it's not there already.
Beyond that, I think that it would be a mistake to ever again allow AH to attend any team activity.
I agree totally. The best thing for the Skins to do is suspend Albert from the team and take him before the Special Masters Office of the NFL to address the non-performance of a contract signed by Albert.
He is taking up a roster spot and if another team wants him they would have to wait until the above hearing would produce a verdict.
Using him as an example is getting tired and its time to move on.
skinsfan69 06-12-2011, 06:35 PM I agree that keeping him would waste a roster spot...but...it would sure send a message about the changes being made by this organization. No more taking the money and laying down in Washington. It's not that easy anymore. The reputation of this team among players in the NFL is that it's a place to go to get paid and that's pretty f'ed up.
Exactly!
Longtimefan 06-13-2011, 12:27 AM Rich Tandler:
CSNWashington.com
*Haynesworth may not leave quickly and quietly. After what Jim Haslett had to say about Albert Haynesworth not wanting to do anything, it would appear that the free agent bust has lost his last possible supporter in the organization. But don’t look for the Redskins to release him as soon as the NFL lockout ends as some expect (and as most are hoping). Mike Shanahan does not want to set a precedent that bad behavior will get you the freedom to go out and cut a free agent deal with a seven-figure bonus check. And he won’t dump him for a late draft pick after paying him all that money. There is a chance there will be a clean break that takes place soon after transactions are allowed but don’t be surprised if there is further drama when the lockout is lifted. [unq\
KI Skins Fan 06-13-2011, 08:38 AM I agree totally. The best thing for the Skins to do is suspend Albert from the team and take him before the Special Masters Office of the NFL to address the non-performance of a contract signed by Albert.
He is taking up a roster spot and if another team wants him they would have to wait until the above hearing would produce a verdict.
Using him as an example is getting tired and its time to move on.
I didn't know that such recourse was available to the Redskins. Why not use it, then? After all, he's useless to them and I'm pretty sure his contract doesn't state that he will only play on 3rd down in a 3-4 defense and then only if he is allowed to freelance.
Skins4L 06-13-2011, 09:36 AM I swear Fat Als half dumb...
He's probally such a weird locker room guy too..
CUT THIS BUM.
Ruhskins 06-13-2011, 09:59 AM Rich Tandler:
CSNWashington.com
*Haynesworth may not leave quickly and quietly. After what Jim Haslett had to say about Albert Haynesworth not wanting to do anything, it would appear that the free agent bust has lost his last possible supporter in the organization. But don’t look for the Redskins to release him as soon as the NFL lockout ends as some expect (and as most are hoping). Mike Shanahan does not want to set a precedent that bad behavior will get you the freedom to go out and cut a free agent deal with a seven-figure bonus check. And he won’t dump him for a late draft pick after paying him all that money. There is a chance there will be a clean break that takes place soon after transactions are allowed but don’t be surprised if there is further drama when the lockout is lifted.
The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.
And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.
Skins4L 06-13-2011, 10:17 AM The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.
And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.
*deep sigh*
We fd up.. we fd up bad.
I can't believe we all wanted this guy too I still remember the threads myself included.
Hell never be able to play good enough to stop the media either.
skinsfan69 06-13-2011, 11:23 AM The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.
And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.
Why are you so worried about the media asking the players about AH? It's not a big a deal as you think it is. It's not like it has an outcome on the games. If the players let this effect their performance then they're probably not someone we want anyway.
Monkeydad 06-13-2011, 01:41 PM The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.
And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.
Screw the media. They'll be on us no matter what we do, it's always been that way, at least since Dan Snyder became the owner. They'll still rehash their same worn out lines about Snyder interfering and us blindly spending on everything that walks, even though those things aren't true anymore. Snyder has actually become the owner he should be, letting real football guys make the decisions. Haynesworth is a pre-Allen/Shanahan mess and it will be over soon enough. Then, they'll go back to bashing us for something else and if desperate for a real story, say we have a racost name and stir that political pot again.
If Haynesworth had even tried and played up to his actual talent level, no one would be complaining about his ridiculously-high contract or saying we're "disfunctional". The team can not be bashed much for this mess, other than taking a risk. Albert was a Pro-Bowl player, one of the best D-linemen in the game...and simply laid down and stopped trying. In the few instances he did try last year (Chicago game for example), he showed his dominance and what we paid for, but the majority of his time here, he's been a selfish, lazy headcase with legal issues to boot.
Yes I want him gone, but it has absolutely nothing about the media's opinion. If we strive to please them, we'll fail miserably and wreck the team on top of that. The media will never give us credit, let alone love us.
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