Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread

True enough. It's the concept that there is a specific way to get that knowledge or to be smarter (through govt. service, graduate degrees, etc.) that the perceived elitism kicks in.

And yes ... I agree completely with your statement as to the presidents.

Again, it's just my perception as to why Palin has such a dedicated following. Dumb people exist and each candidate has their fair share of them on their side. While much of Palin's support (maybe the vast majority) comes from the "not so deep thinkers" crowd, to suggest that you have to be a moron to find her message attractive is, to me, short sighted - certainly for anyone who wants the Republican nomination.

You don't have to be dumb to support Palin and I would argue that the expectation on the left isn't that you go to the best schools in the country but rather you can freely discuss any topic related to governing without guttering the discussion with nonsensical statements. Trump is a perfect example of someone who couldn't possible lead with statements like "you're not gonna raise that ****ing' price!" Frankly such statements and much of what Palin says are deeply insulting much in the same way as someone spitting in your face. I suppose we could strive to be less easily offended much like Palin's supporters.

Speaking of someone who is insulting, Anthony Weiner is another politician who couldn't possibly lead not because of his indiscretions but because of this:

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I really wish Gary Johnson would gain some traction. He was voted in for two terms in a state that is 2 to 1 democrat, is pro-choice (through the first trimester), a dedicated spending slasher, wants to end the wars, quit the expensive, tax-consuming "war" on marijuana, and has the business acumen to get the economy rolling again.

I really wish Gary Johnson would gain some traction. He was voted in for two terms in a state that is 2 to 1 democrat, is pro-choice (through the first trimester), a dedicated spending slasher, wants to end the wars, quit the expensive, tax-consuming "war" on marijuana, and has the business acumen to get the economy rolling again.

Gary Johnson Not Invited to New Hampshire GOP Debate ~ New World Radical (http://www.newworldradical.com/2011/06/gary-johnson-not-invited-to-new.html)

Do you really think Johnson would end the wars any faster than Obama? I doubt it...I seriously doubt it. He wouldn't end it any faster than the Generals on the ground would permit it.


Obama says Iraq war is ending, his promise is kept | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/08/28/us-obama-iraq-idUSTRE67R0K420100828)

Gary Johnson Not Invited to New Hampshire GOP Debate ~ New World Radical (http://www.newworldradical.com/2011/06/gary-johnson-not-invited-to-new.html)

Do you really think Johnson would end the wars any faster than Obama? I doubt it...I seriously doubt it. He wouldn't end it any faster than the Generals on the ground would permit it.


Obama says Iraq war is ending, his promise is kept | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/08/28/us-obama-iraq-idUSTRE67R0K420100828)

Well, considering the generals work for the president, if he says it's time to leave, then it's time to leave. And yes, considering we can't afford the wars anymore, I'd place my bets on both Johnson and/or Ron Paul getting out as fast as possible.

If that's true about the debate, then it's over for Johnson. And so much for the Tea Party... if they really want to roll back government and slash spending, Johnson and Ron Paul should be gaining momentum. Instead they're salivating over Palin and Bachmann.

Gary Johnson: ‘Very jaded’ from debate exclusion - Dan Hirschhorn - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56549.html)

I'm not entirely sure why no one is talking about Johnson either. I would think a lot of Republicans can get behind him.

You don't have to be dumb to support Palin and I would argue that the expectation on the left isn't that you go to the best schools in the country but rather you can freely discuss any topic related to governing without guttering the discussion with nonsensical statements. Trump is a perfect example of someone who couldn't possible lead with statements like "you're not gonna raise that ****ing' price!" Frankly such statements and much of what Palin says are deeply insulting much in the same way as someone spitting in your face. I suppose we could strive to be less easily offended much like Palin's supporters.

Speaking of someone who is insulting, Anthony Weiner is another politician who couldn't possibly lead not because of his indiscretions but because of this:

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Agreed. Just look at some of the videos of her supporters. They are uneducated and just plain dumb. They are the people that think Obama is an African born Muslim. Seriously?? Talk about uneducated and misinformed.

I don't see why the party of economic conservatives have to subject themselves to stupidity (social conservatism). Ah the two party system.

Agreed. Just look at some of the videos of her supporters. They are uneducated and just plain dumb. They are the people that think Obama is an African born Muslim. Seriously?? Talk about uneducated and misinformed.

I don't see why the party of economic conservatives have to subject themselves to stupidity (social conservatism). Ah the two party system.

The party has come a long way from William F. Buckley and Barry Goldwater -- today, they seem to wear simple-minded ignorance as a badge of honor. Intelligence and reflective thought is something to be shunned as far as they're concerned.

Very sad, but obviously, they see the numbers, and Stupidus Americanus outnumbers intellectuals as a voting bloc today -- and that's what everybody should find alarming.

Slow news day, but this is a pretty big development. Six, count them, six top senior aides just up and left Newt's campaign today. I thought he would at least last until July.

Exodus from Newt camp - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56626.html)

This really puts him in a bind with the next debate right around the corner. Talk about being left high and dry.

Besides Newt being a loser of epic proportions, this might signal another dark horse jumping into the race or they're defecting to another campaign. Maybe Michelle Bachmann or Pawlenty? She'll be strong in Iowa.

It's hard out there being pimp.