Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread

You think the current administration likes war? We just ended the war in Iraq with Republicans kicking and screaming because we didn't leave 10,000 troops behind. And the President will begin a significant draw down in Afghanistan next summer. Exactly how is Ron Paul different than Obama or even John Huntsman on those two fronts? In fact, Jon Huntsman and Ron Paul agree to some extent about the wars. President Obama doesn't believe in torture, neither does Ron Paul. President Obama wants to close Gitmo and so does Ron Paul and John McCain and John Huntsman, I might add.


You haven't been paying attention to his time in office. What he's said he will do and what he's done has been opposite of each other.

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President Obama doesn't believe in torture, neither does Ron Paul. President Obama wants to close Gitmo and so does Ron Paul and John McCain and John Huntsman, I might add.


Obama's true stance on Gitmo.

The Obama/Gitmo timeline - Guantanamo - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2011/04/25/obama_guantanamo_rhetoric/)




Obama promises to veto law that allows indefinite detention of civilians but signs it anyway.

Happy Birthday, Bill [of Rights]: Obama Breaks Promise To Veto Bill Allowing Indefinite Detention of Americans « JONATHAN TURLEY (http://jonathanturley.org/2011/12/15/obama-breaks-promise-to-veto-bill-allowing-indefinite-detention-of-americans/)


Obama signs extension of Patriot Act.

Patriot Act Extension Signed By Obama (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/patriot-act-extension-signed-obama-autopen_n_867851.html)



You were saying again?

Obama's true stance on Gitmo.

The Obama/Gitmo timeline - Guantanamo - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2011/04/25/obama_guantanamo_rhetoric/)




Obama promises to veto law that allows indefinite detention of civilians but signs it anyway.

Happy Birthday, Bill [of Rights]: Obama Breaks Promise To Veto Bill Allowing Indefinite Detention of Americans « JONATHAN TURLEY (http://jonathanturley.org/2011/12/15/obama-breaks-promise-to-veto-bill-allowing-indefinite-detention-of-americans/)


Obama signs extension of Patriot Act.

Patriot Act Extension Signed By Obama (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/patriot-act-extension-signed-obama-autopen_n_867851.html)



You were saying again?

Obama isn't going to rock the boat when it comes to "national security" issues and neither is the next guy in charge. He half-heatedly tried to close Gitmo and caved when the GOP threw a tantrum.

Good thing most of numnuts on the GOP side aren't of better quality than Obama. I pray Huntsman comes through.

Obama isn't going to rock the boat when it comes to "national security" issues and neither is the next guy in charge. He half-heatedly tried to close Gitmo and caved when the GOP threw a tantrum.

Good thing most of numnuts on the GOP side aren't of better quality than Obama. I pray Huntsman comes through.

Quality of course being a relative term. I'm not convinced any of them on either side of the aisle are worth a darn anymore.

Obama isn't going to rock the boat when it comes to "national security" issues and neither is the next guy in charge. He half-heatedly tried to close Gitmo and caved when the GOP threw a tantrum.

Good thing most of numnuts on the GOP side aren't of better quality than Obama. I pray Huntsman comes through.

His inability to do what he's says he's going to do will be his downfall. If he has no plans to do any of those things he says, he doesn't need to say he's going to do them.

Caving to the GOP? Is that leadership? Hardly. Civil liberties is a huge issue with me, and not standing up for the American people is spineless to say the least. Obama has zero credibility with me.

You haven't been paying attention to his time in office. What he's said he will do and what he's done has been opposite of each other.

So what hasn't he done that he said he would? And give me specifics.

So what hasn't he done that he said he would? And give me specifics.

I already did.

You think the current administration likes war? We just ended the war in Iraq with Republicans kicking and screaming because we didn't leave 10,000 troops behind. And the President will begin a significant draw down in Afghanistan next summer. Exactly how is Ron Paul different than Obama or even John Huntsman on those two fronts? In fact, Jon Huntsman and Ron Paul agree to some extent about the wars. President Obama doesn't believe in torture, neither does Ron Paul. President Obama wants to close Gitmo and so does Ron Paul and John McCain and John Huntsman, I might add.

Now where they differ, and Ron Paul hasn't been completely clear on this, is how to execute the war on terror and sending foreign aid to some of our allies, which has always been a staple of good diplomacy.

Look, the idea that America with all of it's vast military resources and diplomatic clout around the globe will completely stay out other countries business is foolish thinking and probably not in our long term interests when it comes to a range of issues. If our intervention in Libya can keep the price of oil from spiking globally and keep inflation in check here at home, then I'm all for a measured response and a judicious use of our military capability.

I just heard on the news that some of the troops coming home from Iraq will not be here long because they will be headed to Afganistan.

So what hasn't he done that he said he would? And give me specifics.

Here is a list of 56 for a start.