Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread

An 'oops' that could mean 'over' for Perry - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/10/opinion/graham-debate-perry/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)


"Oops

That was his comeback. Perry completed this painful journey not by telling the audience that remembering the third point wasn't as important as remembering his overall message. He didn't tell the audience that forgetting his third point in a debate was not as bad as forgetting how to run the country or fix the economy. He simply said, "Oops." And then the microphone went to one of his seven Republican rivals. Oops indeed."

What effing idoit. I knew this guy was an Epic Fail, it was just a matter of time. Put this up right next to Howard Dean and the Yell.

LOL. No doubt. I was watching the Dean speech live. I felt bad for him when he started screaming. You knew right then it was over.

I wouldn't vote for perry because of his 80's hair cut.

And just like that Newt Gingrich is the national front runner. I believe somewhere in this thread we were discussing where would support shift if Cain or Perry imploded. Well in Cain's case Newt has been the benefactor.

This is the first of two polls to be released today showing Newt either gaining significant ground or as the GOP front runner.

Newt Gingrich has taken the lead in PPP's national polling. He's at 28% to 25% for Herman Cain and 18% for Mitt Romney. The rest of the Republican field is increasingly looking like a bunch of also rans: Rick Perry is at 6%, Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul at 5%, Jon Huntsman at 3%, and Gary Johnson and Rick Santorum each at 1%.

Also worth noting Newt's GOP fav has swung 58 point net improvement from June until now. Amazing if you think about it.

Also worth noting Newt's GOP fav has swung 58 point net improvement from June until now. Amazing if you think about it.

When you have 12 candidates...you have none

Meanwhile, Bring the Pain Cain!!

WW_nDFKAmCo#!

When you have 12 candidates...you have none

Meanwhile, Bring the Pain Cain!!

WW_nDFKAmCo#!

LOL...he would have done a better job of assessing the opposistion but he doesn't know if that was done by the administration. Disagree with Obama by any means necessary...it's kinda sad he has to look this foolish in the process of doing so.


On a side note, it's very hard for me to understand how men of immense wealth to travel and see the world can be so uncultured to the point where they pride themselves in their ignorance.

Gingrich says he received Freddie Mac compensation - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/gingrich-says-received-freddie-mac-compensation-155709459.html)

I love Newt. Flat out lie saying he wasnt a lobbiest and now has to come clean.

Then stomp against an agency you were stratetgizing for...

LOL...he would have done a better job of assessing the opposistion but he doesn't know if that was done by the administration. Disagree with Obama by any means necessary...it's kinda sad he has to look this foolish in the process of doing so.


On a side note, it's very hard for me to understand how men of immense wealth to travel and see the world can be so uncultured to the point where they pride themselves in their ignorance.


Yeah Cain definitely messed up, but i dont really care that he had a brain lapse as that happens to the best of us. Whats troubling to me is that, and as you pointed out, he seemed to be taking the stance of disagreeing with Obama by any means necessary. That’s a not a good thing. Perhaps he was just tired or burned out from campaigning and using his energy to fight back against baseless harassment claims instead of thinking about the things he should be thinking about.

And its not like Obama is perfect. He used the tired excuse when he was campaigning and said there were 57 states. More recently (I think 2 days ago) Obama thought he was in Asia when speaking to Hawaiians in his native birth state. Whats extra weird is I don’t think Hawaii is really part of any continent. It just seems really odd for him to say, and honestly I don’t know if Obama meant it or not? I mean he's from Hawaii, maybe thats the way he and some Hawaiians feel?

Obama Now Thinks Hawaii Is In Asia - YouTube

Yeah Cain definitely messed up, but i dont really care that he had a brain lapse as that happens to the best of us. Whats troubling to me is that, and as you pointed out, he seemed to be taking the stance of disagreeing with Obama by any means necessary. That’s a not a good thing. Perhaps he was just tired or burned out from campaigning and using his energy to fight back against baseless harassment claims instead of thinking about the things he should be thinking about.

And its not like Obama is perfect. He used the tired excuse when he was campaigning and said there were 57 states. More recently (I think 2 days ago) Obama thought he was in Asia when speaking to Hawaiians in his native birth state. Whats extra weird is I don’t think Hawaii is really part of any continent. It just seems really odd for him to say, and honestly I don’t know if Obama meant it or not? I mean he's from Hawaii, maybe thats the way he and some Hawaiians feel?

Obama Now Thinks Hawaii Is In Asia - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8G-NX4-W3I)





There is misspeaking and then there is Cain and Palin. I mean, Cain just said the following:

"I'm not supposed to know anything about foreign policy. Just thought I'd throw that out," he said (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/cain-took-campaign-on-wild-ride-through-wisconsin-jh32oan-133938263.html) to a Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reporter while on his campaign bus on Monday, the afternoon after his interview with the paper's editorial board. "I want to talk to commanders on the ground. Because you run for president (people say) you need to have the answer. No, you don't! No, you don't! That's not good decision-making."Do you understand the implications of his statement? Would love to get your take on the above.


Let make a few things clear, it's one thing to say 57 states and refer to Hawaii as being part of Asia and another to not know China is already a nuclear power and to believe the president isn't suppose to know something about foreign policy. With respect to Obama would a reasonable person believe the president isn't aware of the number of states in the union and that Hawaii, the state he was born and spent part of his life, is a Polynesian island? I suppose we could discount Cain's gaff over China but the body of evidence against his competence and flaunting of his ignorance with statements such has above I have no recourse but to doubt.

For me I just think Cain is not a polished poliltiician. Most will just dodge the questions they don't have the answer for Cain sticks his foot in his mouth. Not sure which one is worse. I do agree with Saden it seems he was trying to disagree with Obama to just disagree and I have seen all of them running do this and its stupid.