Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread

I am always weary of people who utter the phrase "if you read my book [...]" when talking about their policy positions. I don't think I have ever seen an interview by Nadar where he doesn't mention his book. He is living the american dream selling his ideas.

You haven't seen many interviews then.

Ralph Nader "The Tea Party Now Is Basically The Corporatist Wing Of The Republican Party" - YouTube

People see what they want to see.

Sorry the problem with Nader is the more people see him the more he drops in the poles.

He's not a pleasant looking guy, but who cares about looks if its not getting you anywhere. So now we care about one's looks than the issues they support.

/facepalm

He's not a pleasant looking guy, but who cares about looks if its not getting you anywhere. So now we care about one's looks than the issues they support.

/facepalm

Soory, so you didn't realize that when people see someone they have to also hear what he is saying? I was pointing out the more people hear him speake the more they are turned off by his far left leaning. Like some are too far right he is too far left.

Typical Republican smear tactics. What you have shown me is nothing. Absolutely nothing. So what the guy is net worth at 3.8 million. Did you bother to read those articles? He gets his money from speeches and other works he does. He gives a ton of money away, and doesn't spend much either. Ah yes, whenever hit with facts that are counter to your position resort to the "Republican smear tactics" line. Maybe you should read the articles.

You don't find the hypocrisy of a guy who is the champion of anti-corporate policies, yet he's become a millionaire giving speeches that are paid for by corporate or special interests and he invests in corporate stock (as of 2000)....in particular Cisco, Wal-mart, Occidental Petroleum, General Dynamics, Bristoll Meyers Squibb.

You find no hypocrisy in a guy who says, In a June 2000 interview with the Washington Post, the stocks he chose were “the most neutral-type companies … No. 1, they’re not monopolists and No. 2, they don’t produce land mines, napalm, weapons.”....yet he's invested in Cisco, one of the worst monolpolists in the tech industry and General Dynamics (through Fidelity Magellan Fund) who certainly builds lots of weapons.

...but lets not look at the issues he supports and lets go for the Republican mantra of...."OOOO LOOK AT THIS IRRELEVANT THING OVER HERE!!"...and find something he failed at and bring it to the forefront. Who gives a shit if he was wrong about some car. In fact, scanning the wikipedia (uggh..I know) of the event, "However, former GM executive John DeLorean asserted in On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors (1979) that Nader's criticisms were valid." I would say false accusations that led to a model line of car ending production is certainly not irrelevant to GM, or the workers supporting the Corvair. I would also say that making the serious level of accusations leveled at GM.....and then being PROVED wrong by not only the NHTSA, but an independent panel of engineers, irreparably damage Nader's objective credibility.

LOL at referencing DeLorean, certainly he had no ax to grind (or books to sell) with GM. :doh:

Jesus christ on a cracker. Stop watching Faux news please. It's rotting your brain. You debate exactly like they do. Ignore the issues and go after something irrelevant.I'm sorry, I guess multiple, documented, factual, accounts from numerous sources is "Faux News". My brain must be too rotted to get that.

You haven't seen many interviews then.

Ralph Nader "The Tea Party Now Is Basically The Corporatist Wing Of The Republican Party" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6k2SOaEWsw&feature=player_embedded)

People see what they want to see.

You absolutely right, I couldn't get past his incoherent speech.

Ah yes, whenever hit with facts that are counter to your position resort to the "Republican smear tactics" line. Maybe you should read the articles.

You don't find the hypocrisy of a guy who is the champion of anti-corporate policies, yet he's become a millionaire giving speeches that are paid for by corporate or special interests and he invests in corporate stock (as of 2000)....in particular Cisco, Wal-mart, Occidental Petroleum, General Dynamics, Bristoll Meyers Squibb.

You find no hypocrisy in a guy who says, In a June 2000 interview with the Washington Post, the stocks he chose were “the most neutral-type companies … No. 1, they’re not monopolists and No. 2, they don’t produce land mines, napalm, weapons.”....yet he's invested in Cisco, one of the worst monolpolists in the tech industry and General Dynamics (through Fidelity Magellan Fund) who certainly builds lots of weapons.

I would say false accusations that led to a model line of car ending production is certainly not irrelevant to GM, or the workers supporting the Corvair. I would also say that making the serious level of accusations leveled at GM.....and then being PROVED wrong by not only the NHTSA, but an independent panel of engineers, irreparably damage Nader's objective credibility.

LOL at referencing DeLorean, certainly he had no ax to grind (or books to sell) with GM. :doh:

I'm sorry, I guess multiple, documented, factual, accounts from numerous sources is "Faux News". My brain must be too rotted to get that.

So you think him being wrong about something in the 1960s while fighting for consumer safety is worth mentioning in Presidential qualities?

I'm not understanding how him owning stock has anything to do with his principles or what he stands for. Owning stock doesn't mean he doesn't want to limit corporate greed or get corporate America out of our government. Corporations aren't evil, and I'm quite positive he doesn't think so either. So the stuff you posted is 110% irrelevant to his qualifications and his stances on the issues.

If you can prove to me he's voted differently (or would vote differently) based on his views, then you might have something. As it is, you are grasping at straws trying to disregard his as a good Presidential candidate.

Cain camp calls report of third harassment claim 'baseless' - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/politics/cain-allegations/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

This seems like something the Perry camp would do, fits his personally as a gutless, coward.

Cain camp calls report of third harassment claim 'baseless' - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/politics/cain-allegations/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

This seems like something the Perry camp would do, fits his personally as a gutless, coward.

Are you referring to Perry or Cain as a gutless coward. If Cain, can you elaborate on why you feel he is a gutless coward?

Are you referring to Perry or Cain as a gutless coward. If Cain, can you elaborate on why you feel he is a gutless coward?

Perry.

We may finally know what inappropriate comments the Iowa radio DJ was alluding to when he added fuel to the fire by saying Cain made inappropriate comments to his female employees. Per the Des Moines Register:

“Cain said, ‘Darling, do you mind doctoring my tea for me?’” Deace said.

Of course the radio DJ now refuses to say what Cain said and leaves it up to our imagination to think Cain said something as bad as “suck my…” or as innocent as “darling”.

Iowa radio host calls Herman Cain’s behavior ‘awkward if not inappropriate’ | Iowa Caucuses (http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/11/02/iowa-radio-host-calls-herman-cains-behavior-awkward-if-not-inappropriate/)