SBXVII
10-14-2011, 12:43 PM
So Obama showing his birth cert made....Obama look foolish? Um...big fat fail, sir. And some "expert" maintains it's still a fake? C'mon man.
It was an embarrassment because Obama thought by simply showing his or a fake certificate the public would shut up and move on. Instead it brought about more questions which he has failed to answer. He would have been better off simply saying he couldn't locate a copy and move on as he had done for the first part of his tenure.
12thMan
10-14-2011, 01:06 PM
It was an embarrassment because Obama thought by simply showing his or a fake certificate the public would shut up and move on. Instead it brought about more questions which he has failed to answer. He would have been better off simply saying he couldn't locate a copy and move on as he had done for the first part of his tenure.
What on God's green earth are you talking about? And for the love of Christ, please stop trafficking World Net Daily, Jerome Corsi, and the rest of those nuts over there.
The State Dept says his citizenship is good, the state of Hawaii, which has a Republican Gov., have provided both long and short forms. But of course all of these different players, the White House included...and don't forget the FBI and Supreme Court, that have thrown out case after case, are all a part of a mass cover-up to keep Obama in office. Yeah, okay.
12thMan
10-14-2011, 01:17 PM
It was an embarrassment because Obama thought by simply showing his or a fake certificate the public would shut up and move on. Instead it brought about more questions which he has failed to answer. He would have been better off simply saying he couldn't locate a copy and move on as he had done for the first part of his tenure.
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that a credible news organization such as CNN isn't enough to persuade you, because in your mind CNN is in collusion with gov't officials at every level to cover-up this embarrassment. In fact, I'm sure there was a secret internal memo circulating to literally thousands of federal and state government employees forbidding them to come forward and blow the lid off this whole thing.
CNN investigation: Obama 'birther' claims have no merit - CNN (http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-25/politics/birthers.obama.hawaii_1_birther-controversy-obama-opinion-research-corporation?_s=PM:POLITICS)
Chico23231
10-14-2011, 01:25 PM
It was an embarrassment because Obama thought by simply showing his or a fake certificate the public would shut up and move on. Instead it brought about more questions which he has failed to answer. He would have been better off simply saying he couldn't locate a copy and move on as he had done for the first part of his tenure.
oh wow. SBX you really sounding like a Trump supporter on this one.
We're really back on this birther crap?
:doh:
saden1
10-14-2011, 02:19 PM
It was an embarrassment because Obama thought by simply showing his or a fake certificate the public would shut up and move on. Instead it brought about more questions which he has failed to answer. He would have been better off simply saying he couldn't locate a copy and move on as he had done for the first part of his tenure.
Amen brother....preach on. I was thinking the other day how it's possible for a man not born here to be president and it dawned on me that the mother fcker has to be the most connected person in the history of the world! I mean, you got to figure a shit ton of people are helping him cover it all up. Sometimes I wonder if the GOP is in on it too. Or maybe they're just powerless to stop whoever is behind Obama's presidency? Who do you think is that powerful? The mob? The Illuminati? The Freemasons? The Saudis? Skill and Bones?
All of this makes you think the world ain't right. Hopefully it isn't too late to take our country back.
SmootSmack
10-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Amen brother....preach on. I was thinking the other day how it's possible for a man not born here to be president and it dawned on me that the mother fcker has to be the most connected person in the history of the world! I mean, you got to figure a shit ton of people are helping him cover it all up. Sometimes I wonder if the GOP is in on it too. Or maybe they're just powerless to stop whoever is behind Obama's presidency? Who do you think is that powerful? The mob? The Illuminati? The Freemasons? The Saudis? Skill and Bones?
All of this makes you think the world ain't right. Hopefully it isn't too late to take our country back.
You're a fool. A damn fool....we all know it's the Stonecutters running sh**
Slingin Sammy 33
10-14-2011, 02:52 PM
1. Are you planning on mandating the payroll tax be given to employees as bonuses as part of the tax code overhaul or will you leave that up to the employers? Up to employers. However keep in mind that these taxes are already embedded in the cost of all the goods/services we use today, costs of goods/services before the FairTax Tax is added will go down significantly.
2. What about grandma and grandpa who don't have income? Where are their bonuses going to come from or should I say their medicare and social security?SS & Medicare stay as is. Social Security and Medicare programs are spending programs. FairTax is focused on revenues (tax collection) only. FairTax would be implemented to be revenue neutral, spending programs and fixing SS & Medicare are separate issues.
Also, for each Head of Household or each individual with SS card, a prebate check will be sent monthly to cover the cost of the embedded Federal tax on basic necessities using current HHS poverty level calculations.
3. Let's not forgot about the future of our children too...where the hell is the money to pay down the debt going to come from? I am guessing not from the plummeting tax revenue.The FairTax is designed to be revenue neutral. I would argue that with no corporate, capital gains, death, etc. taxes the climate for business expansion will be excellent and we will see increased revenues to the Fed. Worst case, the percentage of the FairTax would have to be increased to cover debt reduction. A balanced budget ammendment and fiscal discipline will allow us to put our financial house in order without increases to the FairTax % IMO.
Another revenue stream that FairTax catches is the underground economy. Folks getting paid "under the table", money from illegal activities, people paid in cash/tips that aren't claimed as income. Since the FairTax is embedded in products sold, when anyone buys a prodcut/service pays the tax, no matter where/how they made their money.
4. What if you're disabled? Are you on your own or will there be any safety net for you?see #2
Wasn't "cowardly", just had to contribute to GDP this morning and help cover the costs of Obama's spending programs and Solyndra loans.
I did make an error in a previous post in the thread. The FairTax wouldn't be added on the price of a product at the cash register as an additional cost (exclusive), like a state sales tax. The FairTax would already be an embedded cost in the price of a good/service (inclusive).
Slingin Sammy 33
10-14-2011, 03:00 PM
You're a fool. A damn fool....we all know it's the Stonecutters running sh**LOL
The Simpsons: Stonecutters Song "We Do" - YouTube
firstdown
10-14-2011, 03:06 PM
Amen brother....preach on. I was thinking the other day how it's possible for a man not born here to be president and it dawned on me that the mother fcker has to be the most connected person in the history of the world! I mean, you got to figure a shit ton of people are helping him cover it all up. Sometimes I wonder if the GOP is in on it too. Or maybe they're just powerless to stop whoever is behind Obama's presidency? Who do you think is that powerful? The mob? The Illuminati? The Freemasons? The Saudis? Skill and Bones?
All of this makes you think the world ain't right. Hopefully it isn't too late to take our country back.
Its probably the same people who blew up the WTB and made it look like a terrorist attack.