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Chico23231 10-10-2011, 01:55 PM Reagan--No Loopholes For Millionaires - YouTube (http://youtu.be/cgbJ-Fs1ikA)
really didnt know where to put this, but found it very interesting
Yeah ive heard it before, but thats old republican. There are no more Regans in Washington anymore or running on the GOP tickets. Sure is hell none in Tea Party movement. Paying fair share used to be conservative ideal. Now their in line with Big business, Big Corporations. U can one again see that aligning with Wall Street and big money than any protest against an institution that lead us head first into near economic collaspe. Their against Tarp and bailouts, but with Wall Street now? Funny
Beemnseven 10-10-2011, 02:55 PM Reagan--No Loopholes For Millionaires - YouTube (http://youtu.be/cgbJ-Fs1ikA)
really didnt know where to put this, but found it very interesting
Warren Buffet pays the capital gains tax, while his secretary pays federal income taxes. They are two completely different things.
Now, if you are saying that the capital gains tax rate should be the same rate as the top level income tax rate, fine. But if you think your 401k didn't take enough of a hit over the last few years, don't worry. Jacking the capital gains rate up will clean out whatever you have left.
Call me crazy, but I'd rather not have Congress find a way to make it less profitable to invest.
RedskinRat 10-10-2011, 03:06 PM You guys keep saying Obama is done. It's just a bunch of bullshit. Are his poll numbers good, no. But for someone that's "weak", why are all the big hitters too chicken to take him on?
Which 'Big Hitters' are you talking about?
All an opponenet has to do is hide BHO's teleprompter and the debate would be over.
12thMan 10-10-2011, 03:15 PM Which 'Big Hitters' are you talking about?
All an opponenet has to do is hide BHO's teleprompter and the debate would be over.
Gov. Mitch Daniels
Gov. Chris Christie
Rep. Paul Ryan
Gov. Haley Barbour
Sen. John Thune
Gov. Mike Huckabee
Gov. Sarah Palin
That's a pretty good list of candidates that don't think they can beat Barack Obama. Within GOP circles, I would consider them hitters.
Jon Huntsman still in single digits in every poll, he'll be out of the race in a couple of months if not before. #fail
Rick Perry is fading faster than a pair of Levi jeans.
Your nominee will be flip-flopping Mitt Romney.
budw38 10-10-2011, 03:21 PM Warren Buffet pays the capital gains tax, while his secretary pays federal income taxes. They are two completely different things.
Now, if you are saying that the capital gains tax rate should be the same rate as the top level income tax rate, fine. But if you think your 401k didn't take enough of a hit over the last few years, don't worry. Jacking the capital gains rate up will clean out whatever you have left.
Call me crazy, but I'd rather not have Congress find a way to make it less profitable to invest.
Exactly .... well written JB&7 .
dmek25 10-10-2011, 03:24 PM http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/313178_267842903255783_197803546926386_808160_7268 85200_n.jpg
and this is so ironic....
Beemnseven 10-10-2011, 04:46 PM Gov. Mitch Daniels
Gov. Chris Christie
Rep. Paul Ryan
Gov. Haley Barbour
Sen. John Thune
Gov. Mike Huckabee
Gov. Sarah Palin
That's a pretty good list of candidates that don't think they can beat Barack Obama. Within GOP circles, I would consider them hitters.
Jon Huntsman still in single digits in every poll, he'll be out of the race in a couple of months if not before. #fail
Rick Perry is fading faster than a pair of Levi jeans.
Your nominee will be flip-flopping Mitt Romney.
That's not quite true. Apart from perhaps Haley Barbour (it's debateable if he's a "hitter"), the people you listed didn't run because they didn't want to. In the case of Mitch Daniels, it was his family that persuaded him not to make a run for it. Others, like Ryan and Christie believe they have to fulfill their commitment to serve the remainder of their terms. Palin and Huckabee don't want to take a pay cut.
Campaigning for president is a life-altering event that takes enormous time away from your family. Sometimes winning the presidency doesn't even make it worth running.
It's quite a stretch to claim that they refused to run because they don't think they can beat Barack Obama.
DynamiteRave 10-10-2011, 05:02 PM Herman Cain's quite the flavor of the week (read as: month).
What's up with that?
12thMan 10-10-2011, 05:02 PM That's not quite true. Apart from perhaps Haley Barbour, the people you listed didn't run because they didn't want to. In the case of Mitch Daniels, it was his family that persuaded him not to make a run for it.
Campaigning for president is a life-altering event that takes enormous time away from your family. Sometimes winning the presidency doesn't even make it worth running.
It's quite a stretch to claim that they refused to run because they don't think they can beat Barack Obama.
On the contrary, I do think that was the ultimate deciding factor. Of course family is always a consideration as it should be. With the exception of Senator John Thune, they all criss-crossed the country and openly flirted with the possibility of running for president. Chris Christie just gave a big speech at the Reagan library two weeks ago and strung the media along for months before finally saying no. Bottom line, it just wasn't there. Same with Palin, same with Huckabee. Mitch Daniels said his family was the ultimate factor, but he didn't seem to have the fire either.
The point I'm making is, I've heard them all give substantive TV interviews about what they would do to change the direction of the country; that Obama could be beaten and he's a one term president. But when opportunity came knocking, they didn't have the guts to put skin in the game and back it up.
12thMan 10-10-2011, 05:08 PM That's not quite true. Apart from perhaps Haley Barbour (it's debateable if he's a "hitter"), the people you listed didn't run because they didn't want to. In the case of Mitch Daniels, it was his family that persuaded him not to make a run for it. Others, like Ryan and Christie believe they have to fulfill their commitment to serve the remainder of their terms. Palin and Huckabee don't want to take a pay cut.
Campaigning for president is a life-altering event that takes enormous time away from your family. Sometimes winning the presidency doesn't even make it worth running.
It's quite a stretch to claim that they refused to run because they don't think they can beat Barack Obama.
I agree with you that campaigning for president is arduous and is an all in proposition. You have to want it badder (bad grammar) than breathing.
That's why I think Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee. He wants to be president and in his heart he thinks he can beat Barack Obama. Mitt Romney really believes he has the answers to get the economy going. He's been running for president for, what, six or seven years? It's his time.
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