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GusFrerotte 08-18-2011, 06:45 PM Perry is the media darling, just like Palin was for a long time. Unless we do expereince a total economic collapse before Nov 2012, Obama is going to be reelected if Perry, ROmney, or Bachmann, is made the GOP nominee. THey just don't offer anything different, and scare the crap out of Dems, most indies, and even a lot of Reps. That isn't a recipe for victory. Perry likes to say he craeted a lot of jobs in TX, but they were Walmart type jobs. Oh boy, I can pay off my college loans working for Walmart or buy a new car!!!!!
GusFrerotte 08-18-2011, 06:49 PM Saw that Michele Bachmann is claiming that she would bring back $2.00 gasoline and pointed out that gas was $1.79 when Obama took office and is close to $4.00 right now.
Bachmann: I'll bring back $2 gas - Aug. 18, 2011 (http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/18/news/economy/bachmann_gas_prices/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2)
I don't think she understands how supply and demand works
Nope, she understands she is increasingly becoming irrelevant and has to say crazy shit to get media attention. The chic has no depth, no real ideas that sets her apart from the other frontrunners. On top of that the GOP needs only one candidate to appeal to the evangelicals.
RedskinRat 08-18-2011, 11:00 PM Where did I explicitly say Islam was a race? would you like me to clarify and say that Cain is a religious bigot?
Yes, I want you to be explicit because otherwise we see a devaluing of the term 'racist'.
I will agree that there are many candidates that are religiously bigoted, but that's different from being racially bigoted. You chose your religion, you don't chose your race. It's utterly abhorrent for people to claim racism when it nothing of the sort, usually a ploy of hysterical liberals.
Slingin Sammy 33 08-19-2011, 08:55 AM Haha, wow didn't know I'd stir up all this trouble -- I'm actually a big supporter of Ron Paul and I think that some of his ideas (not all) are really good. But, you're right if I have a problem against this woman:
Bachmann: "Not All Cultures Are Equal" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP4hYkfwuTY)
then I think anyone right of center is a crazy, unelectable neocon.MB has said some wacky stuff.....however, what in that video is inaccurate? If you think the culture of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan under the Taliban, or any other Sharia law country is the same as the US or mainstream Europe than I suggest you visit (or even research in detail) one of those places and see how religious minorities and women are treated.
Saw that Michele Bachmann is claiming that she would bring back $2.00 gasoline and pointed out that gas was $1.79 when Obama took office and is close to $4.00 right now.
Bachmann: I'll bring back $2 gas - Aug. 18, 2011 (http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/18/news/economy/bachmann_gas_prices/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2)
I don't think she understands how supply and demand works
I'd like to know who was selling $1.79 gas in 2008.
Slingin Sammy 33 08-19-2011, 09:10 AM Perry is the media darling, just like Palin was for a long time. Unless we do expereince a total economic collapse before Nov 2012,You live in the Detroit area, how much worse does it need to get. Obama and the Dems need to hope and pray for a MAJOR economic recovery before Nov 2012 or they're done. Rs could very easily gain control of WH, House, Senate. Elections aren't decided by folks entrenched in their positions (like most of us). They're decided by independents and folks in the center, and Independents are breaking against Obama now, where they were breaking his way in 2008. Most folks don't get down into the "nuts & bolts" of how gov't works. They just know times are tough and Obama is the President.
Perry likes to say he craeted a lot of jobs in TX, but they were Walmart type jobs. Oh boy, I can pay off my college loans working for Walmart or buy a new car!!!!!Rick Perry And Texas Job Numbers « Political Math (http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590)
You may want to check your facts on that: "Since the recession started hourly wages in Texas have increased at a 6th fastest pace in the nation."
12thMan 08-19-2011, 09:46 AM Sammy, you really think you guys will control all three branches? I'm falling out of my chair laughing. Seriously. I'd be surprised if Dems didn't cut your Tea Party majority in half, if not outright win back the House back. All we need is 24 seats. Voter turnout during a general will be significantly different next time around. It's over for the Tea Party.
The Senate could be a toss-up, but don't expect any blowouts. Democrats will definitely put Mass. and Wisconsin in play. I think we'll win both of those races. And if you think Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann will be running the country next November, I have a bridge in Anacostia I'd like to sell you.
firstdown 08-19-2011, 09:47 AM Perry is the media darling, just like Palin was for a long time. Unless we do expereince a total economic collapse before Nov 2012, Obama is going to be reelected if Perry, ROmney, or Bachmann, is made the GOP nominee. THey just don't offer anything different, and scare the crap out of Dems, most indies, and even a lot of Reps. That isn't a recipe for victory. Perry likes to say he craeted a lot of jobs in TX, but they were Walmart type jobs. Oh boy, I can pay off my college loans working for Walmart or buy a new car!!!!!
Obama says he wants to create jobs and spent 800 billion and failed. Walmart jobs are better then no job at all.
firstdown 08-19-2011, 09:53 AM I'd like to know who was selling $1.79 gas in 2008.
Gas Price Historical Price Charts - GasBuddy.com (http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx)
Must have missed that day, I haven't seen gas prices that low in forever around me.
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